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Old Today, 18:18   #1531
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Re: US Election 2016

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And more importantly, while it's a perfectly reasonable right to hold a protest, some are protesting not at Trump himself but celebrating Equality and I can understand that, however, it is rather pointless, those protesting against his Presidency, with slogans of 'Dump Trump', it will not change a thing. they are essentially protesting against democracy, just like the sore losers that they are, just like the ones here, who were protesting in London, when brexit had won.
Protests are part of a Democracy. You can voice your own opposition to a democratic result. Respecting the result means you accept it happened it doesn't mean you have to shut up after that. As you said he is President, democracy has been respected. Now people are protesting, amongst other things, what Trump stands for.

As for the motivation I think it's more a cathartic experience where like-minded people meet up and vent. As well as an attempt to increase motivation and momentum for future, more practical, ways to oppose Trump's policies and presidency. They can't keep holding rallies. The Tea Party movement shows it can help.

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Protests are part of a Democracy. You can voice your own opposition to a democratic result. Respecting the result means you accept it happened it doesn't mean you have to shut up after that. As you said he is President, democracy has been respected. Now people are protesting, amongst other things, what Trump stands for.
Indeed many fought and died for democracy so whether one likes it or not they have every right to protest whatever it is about..
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Re: US Election 2016

Trump has stuck to his word about returning the Winston Churchill bust back to the Oval Office that was removed by Barack Obama.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7538806.html

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Indeed many fought and died for democracy so whether one likes it or not they have every right to protest whatever it is about..
It is not about liking or not, I have nothing against protesting as long as it is peaceful and meaningful. But at the same time, protesting against a democratic result, it's pointless - it's basically using democracy against democracy, it won't change anything.

Protesting against Brexit won't stop brexit.

Protesting against Trump won't remove him from the Presidency.
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Re: US Election 2016

Of course it won't change anything Mick but l don't think we should decry it because as you know about a great many things in life whatever it is people have very strong views and of course that includes the great and good on this forum as one knows.
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Protesting against Trump won't remove him from the Presidency.
They aren't protesting against the result that made him president they are protesting against his own and the Republican party's stance on gay equality and same sex marriage
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Re: US Election 2016

It's worrying when the leader of the richest, most powerful country in the world calls those who disagree with him "the enemies".

https://www.facebook.com/TheIndepend...4411924496636/

He's a big advocate of the 2nd Amendment, but seems to have bypassed the 1st, especially the bit that states
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But the point of these protests is to suppress opposition to the views of the protesters. They are trying to bully people that don't agree with their views. As with everything PC and associated with the Left, speak out against them and you get shouted down as an -ist or promoting hate or a -phobia.
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No it isn't. It's too make their own views as loud and as clear as possible. What is wrong and anti-democratic is some of the violence we saw yesterday. All of the people protesting peacefully today though is their own expression of opposition and speech.

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They aren't protesting against the result that made him president they are protesting against his own and the Republican party's stance on gay equality and same sex marriage
So where are they when it comes to protesting of gay rights in other Countries, far far worse situations, like I mentioned in the Middle East etc where they kill gays. Where were they then ?
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Re: US Election 2016

Even if a march/protest represented 99% of the people, it would still be trying to oppress any dissenting viewpoints.

Try speaking out against them and see what happens. Eg Good luck trying to get a job in Hollywood or the media.
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Even if a march/protest represented 99% of the people, it would still be trying to oppress any dissenting viewpoints.
So all protests/marches are the oppression of dissenting viewpoints?
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