Unstoppable migration?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

Yeah, Big Issue sellers, scrap metal collectors, clothing for "charities" collectors, car hand washers and the homes they occupy from Buy-To-Let owners.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38280118

Does she* live in an ivory tower?


* corrected in the interests of sexual equality.

(men don't have the monopoly on stupidity.... )

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Does he live in an ivory tower?

"She" does I think

But she probably refers to it as "twr ifori"

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

"She" does I think

But she probably refers to it as "twr ifori"

Isn't that a trendy cafe bar in Islington?

Lol

[Osem]

Greece has appealed to the EU to support its plans to reduce the population of overcrowded migrant camps on the Aegean islands.
The plea follows an EU announcement on Thursday that member states should be allowed to send some asylum seekers back to Greece from March 2017.
Under EU rules, the first country of entry usually handles an asylum seeker's claim.
But that system collapsed in 2015 when Greece was overwhelmed by new arrivals.
Most of the more than one million people who entered Europe last year did so through Greece, travelling from Turkey.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38265684

I wonder how robust the asylum process will be? What incentive does Greece have not to just rubber stamp virtually every application and let these people head off to where they want to go - anywhere but Greece where they system is overwhelmed?

[Osem]

Nine people have been convicted of running an immigration fraud linked to English tests for foreign students.
Hundreds of non-EU citizens are said to have got student visas after paying fake "sitters" to take language exams on their behalf.
Four people were found guilty at Southwark Crown Court of immigration law offences. A fifth pleaded guilty and four others were convicted earlier.
The trials resulted directly from a BBC Panorama investigation.
To qualify for a visa in the UK, overseas students must demonstrate a certain level of the English language.
The then-government-accredited Test of English for International Communication (TOEIC) examines reading, listening, grammar and vocabulary.
It involves a written and oral section and a separate multiple-choice question paper.
Talal Choudhury, Shaheen Ahmed
Image caption
Total Care directors Talal Choudhury and Shaheen Ahmed were seen in the footage
However, in 2014 Panorama revealed that the TOEIC exams at two test centres were being taken on behalf of foreign visa applicants in exchange for cash.
The programme secretly filmed fake "sitters" at Eden College International (ECI) in east London and at the Universal Training Centre in Watford.
Undercover footage in which entire rooms of registered candidates stepped aside so that exams could be taken by people who spoke better English was shown at the trials.
The plotters were equally brazen when it came to a multiple-choice paper - the secret filming showed an invigilator simply reading out the answers for candidates to copy.
The oral and written test answers were recorded on computers. However, ETS, the US company that set and marked the exam, failed to detect that the same voices appeared numerous times under different names.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38225712

God only knows where we'd be if we didn't have robust immigration controls eh?

[Osem]

An increasing number of migrants are returning to Calais, two months after the "Jungle" camp was cleared by French authorities, aid workers have told the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38359934

Who could have predicted this?

[deadite66]

French police need to keep on top of dismantling that or they'll be back to a full camp in a few months.

[Taf]

French charities (and it is understood British also) are supplying the tents, etc. according to many French media outlets.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

French charities (and it is understood British also) are supplying the tents, etc. according to many French media outlets.

Yes they are bound to do that.

I think many of these people have convinced themselves that the UK alone will offer them what they want and until they get here and find out for themselves, they won't accept anything else and will carry on trying. The UK is a place where it's easy to work under the radar and even if you get caught, the chances are you'll be released and allowed to disappear again. Until we change that, the problem will continue and grow.

[Ramrod]

NHS left with unpaid bill of £30m from overseas patients in just one year

The true amount owed is likely to be far higher as the figures only relates to those people identified as being chargeable. Many other overseas patients, including those who are able to give UK addresses, are never asked to pay.

[Osem]

Given the latest news from Berlin that the person who's been apprehended for the lorry attack there is a Pakistani asylum seeker*, I wonder whether ultimately it'll be the actions of migrant murderers, rapists and criminals which ultimately force our dithering governments to get tough on porous borders, illegal immigration and the widespread abuse of the asylum system. Notwithstanding the actions of our very own home bred ****, it'd have been far better if our glorious leaders had listened to common sense years ago but for some reason that was beyond them and now they're trying to put a genie back in a bottle and ordinary people going about their lawful business are the collateral damage.


* Not yet charged.

[Taf]

Merkel must be counting the days until she loses power and can hand it all off to someone else to deal with.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

Merkel must be counting the days until she loses power and can hand it all off to someone else to deal with.

I really don't think she is. I reckon she still doesn't accept reality. She's been in power too long and we all know what happens - they start to believe their own rhetoric and can't accept they're ever wrong. The comments she's made recently are all about shooting the right's fox nothing more. I don't think she'll ever accept what she did when she welcomed all those unknown faces into Europe.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Osem

I really don't think she is. I reckon she still doesn't accept reality. She's been in power too long and we all know what happens - they start to believe their own rhetoric and can't accept they're ever wrong. The comments she's made recently are all about shooting the right's fox nothing more. I don't think she'll ever accept what she did when she welcomed all those unknown faces into Europe.

She's probably got a nicely feathered nest in some bolt-hole in the sun.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

She's probably got a nicely feathered nest in some bolt-hole in the sun.

Don't they all? I bet it won't be close to a refugee centre either.