23-05-2017, 12:32
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
It will certainly highlight the fact that the Corbynistas are historically terrorist sympathisers. I wonder how they'll handle that?
Gift to the Torys though.
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Everything needs to be considered in context
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/a...ail/story.html
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23-05-2017, 13:10
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
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She did the right thing; owned up to her past and turned away from it.
Corbyn is still ambiguous on his views on the IRA, Hamas and Hezbollah. He could easily solve this by condemning their actions. The 'friends' statement will continually raise doubts until he categorically denies it.
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23-05-2017, 13:23
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Gift to the Torys though.
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If anyone sees what's happened a 'a gift' then they really are beyond contempt.
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24-05-2017, 18:56
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Fair comment to a point, Ben, but I don't think the comparison between a councillor and a party leader who could become Prime Minister is a good one. You must admit, that is a bit of a stretch!
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24-05-2017, 19:44
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Not apples and apples.
Do better.
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26-05-2017, 09:06
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Re: June 8th General Election
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
Sounds like Corbyn's going to be 'tough on terrorism and tough on the causes of terrorism' just like he was with the IRA...
Meanwhile amongst the lunatic ranks of the truly nasty party, the vice chairman of the Esher and Walton Labour Party has claimed:
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“I’m going on record and saying that I would not put it past our establishment, our right wing government or Theresa May to blow up their own people in order to continue to secure power for themselves.
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http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...nment-13094130
I wonder if Corbyn disagrees...
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26-05-2017, 22:23
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Re: June 8th General Election
Andrew Neil has just handed Corbyn his arse, on a plate with seasonal greens.
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27-05-2017, 08:45
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Andrew Neil has just handed Corbyn his arse, on a plate with seasonal greens.
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this
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/809...-election-2017
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27-05-2017, 09:51
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Re: June 8th General Election
More Labour nastiness in the wake of the Manchester murders:
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The vice-chair of Stroud Labour Party has tweeted that the Manchester terror attack is “wonderful timing for Theresa May“. Debbie Hicks, who has stood as a candidate in Stroud Central, made the remark this morning as the full picture of the carnage continued to develop.
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https://order-order.com/2017/05/23/s...iming-for-may/
Scratch the surface and you soon find that Labour is infected with this sort of thinking.
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27-05-2017, 12:04
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Re: June 8th General Election
Conservative and Labour manifestos slammed by independent think tank The Institute for Fiscal Studies for not being honest about their manifestos.
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Carl Emmerson, the IFS deputy director, said: "The shame of the two big parties' manifestos is that neither sets out an honest set of choices.
"Neither addresses the long-term challenges we face.
"For Labour we can have pretty much everything - free higher education, free childcare, more spending on pay, health, infrastructure.
"And the pretence is that can all be funded by faceless corporations and 'the rich'."
"The Conservatives simply offer the cuts already promised ... Compared to Labour they are offering a relatively smaller state and consequently lower taxes. With that offer comes unacknowledged risks to the quality of public services, and tough choices over spending."
The IFS said it was likely that the Tories would have to resort to increasing tax or borrowing in order to "bail out" public services to prevent their decline during a proposed continuation of austerity measures. Withdrawing the winter fuel allowance from wealthier pensioners and scrapping the triple lock on pension increases is "a nod towards dealing with the costs of ageing" but "would make a whole trivial difference to spending", it said.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ire-tax-rises/
https://election2017.ifs.org.uk/arti...riefing-23-may
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27-05-2017, 13:03
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Re: June 8th General Election
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He's got Labour about right, but I think he must have skipped a few pages of Theresa's manifesto. Did he miss the bit about social care, which is radical enough to give half of the elderly premature heart attacks?
The Conservative manifesto is clearly more responsible in its tone and vision and recognises that we don't have untold riches to fund inessential projects. Public opinion forces the Conservatives to ease back a bit on austerity, which means the deficit will have to be fully paid back later than they would like.
However, if the IFS really expect any political party to project doom and gloom in their manifestos, then they really don't understand politics at all.
The IFS do themselves no credit with these remarks, which I think may damage their credibility.
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27-05-2017, 13:29
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Re: June 8th General Election
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He's got Labour about right, but I think he must have skipped a few pages of Theresa's manifesto. Did he miss the bit about social care, which is radical enough to give half of the elderly premature heart attacks?
The Conservative manifesto is clearly more responsible in its tone and vision and recognises that we don't have untold riches to fund inessential projects. Public opinion forces the Conservatives to ease back a bit on austerity, which means the deficit will have to be fully paid back later than they would like.
However, if the IFS really expect any political party to project doom and gloom in their manifestos, then they really don't understand politics at all.
The IFS do themselves no credit with these remarks, which I think may damage their credibility.
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Labour have always promised to spend, spend, spend. Buying votes and creating non-jobs is in their DNA.
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27-05-2017, 13:47
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Labour have always promised to spend, spend, spend. Buying votes and creating non-jobs is in their DNA.
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boom and bust economics
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