Unstoppable migration?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Sweden ‘Facing Collapse’ Thanks To Migrant Influx, Foreign Minister Warns

Now that's negative for you.

How on Earth did we arrive at a situation in which EU leaders are talking like this?

[Gary L]

When the word spreads amongst the foreigners that the British Police are a bunch of fairies and are softer than cotton wool. then Britain is in trouble.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

When the word spreads amongst the foreigners that the British Police are a bunch of fairies and are softer than cotton wool. then Britain is in trouble.

I drove through an area of Manchester last week that reminded me of a bad area of Luxor in Egypt i once travelled through. I felt safer in Belfast at the hight of the troubles that i did in Manchester the other day.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I drove through an area of Manchester last week that reminded me of a bad area of Luxor in Egypt i once travelled through. I felt safer in Belfast at the hight of the troubles that i did in Manchester the other day.

Never mind eh? Who cares what you think? Our glorious leaders know best and it's not as though they've led us into one crisis after another without seeming to learn anything is it??...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I drove through an area of Manchester last week that reminded me of a bad area of Luxor in Egypt i once travelled through. I felt safer in Belfast at the hight of the troubles that i did in Manchester the other day.

Birmingham's really bad. you can pretend you're on holiday thousands of miles away. just park the car and walk up and down the road. you'll suddenly become a tourist.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Interesting. Well if she is she's in between a rock and a very hard place because the Turks have the whip hand so far as I can see and they're going to exact a heavy price for making any serious attempts to stop the flood.

Today's Turkish vote is going to be critical to Europe.

And to Turkey's secular stance under Erdogan.

[Osem]

Turkey being granted entry into the EU is going to be just another reason for us to leave IMHO. At what point are the Eurocrats going to accept that they can't manage the 'union' they have let alone a larger one?

[Osem]

A monthly record of 218,394 migrants and refugees reached Europe by sea in October, the UN says, almost as many as the total number of arrivals in 2014.

The number reaching Greece was 210,265, and for Italy it was 8,129, according to the UNHCR.

Many are refugees from Syria. At least 70 people have drowned trying to reach Greek islands in the past week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34700104

Many are from Syria? Well we know that but far more are not from Syria so why does the BBC insist on making that point repeatedly.

[Osem]

Footage has emerged showing a series of disturbances by migrants who want to leave a UK military base in Cyprus.

It shows a tent on fire, people trying to climb fences and one person shouting "we are people, not animals".

The 114-strong group landed at RAF Akrotiri base last month and have been at a temporary camp while their asylum applications are processed by Cyprus.

The Ministry of Defence say the migrants - mostly Syrians - are being given three meals a day and shelter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34715877

This time they're mostly Syrians. It's almost as if the other nationalities don't matter.

In any even they clearly don't want the sanctuary they're being offered but want to go where they choose.

[techguyone]

With a bit of luck, word will spread and RAF Akrotiri won't get any more visitors - job done.

[Osem]

That's what needs to happen and it's been where the authorities have been found wanting that the worst problems have occurred as people seize their chance to travel further into Europe than ought to have been possible prior to them being screened. As it stands there's a lot of refugees wandering around Europe but far more people who are purely economic migrants exploiting the chaos.

[techguyone]

I liked this for the hand wringers and fair play lefty types from another forum

From an English friend who lives abroad.

Our rulers - Mrs Merkel and Hollande - have demanded that all European countries take their "fair share" of the (mainly Muslim) migrant hordes (swarms?) over-running Europe's apparently unguarded borders.

But how do you decide what a "fair share" is?

Merkel and Hollande will probably try to link the number of migrants to each country's GDP as that will ensure Britain gets landed with most of the flood of human beings pouring into Europe.

But I've got a better idea. Why not link the number of refugees each country takes to its population density?

Not only that, but I've even worked out the numbers for Merkel and her French colleague.

Here's how I've done it. I've started with Europe's most densely populated country - England. England's population density is 413 people per square kilometre (413 ppl/km2).
Then I've worked out how many refugees the main European countries could take for them to reach the same population density as Europe's most densely populated country - England.

To reach the same population density as England (413 ppl/km2), Germany could take 67 million migrants, France could accommodate a whopping 160 million and Spain an even larger 161 million. And our close neighbours in Scotland have room for over 25 million! That should please socialist Sturgeon.

In all, just thirteen European countries could accommodate more than 680 million migrants before reaching the same population density as England.

Well -- that seems to solve the problem of deciding how countries should take their "fair share" of the migrant swarm. So, using my calculations, there's no need forEurope's most densely populated country - England - to take any migrants at all and our friends in these thirteen countries can comfortably absorb over 680 million migrants.

That seems to me to be giving each country the "fair share" that Merkel and Hollande demand!

It's a pity that Cameron (or his wife) has neither the brains to think up such a solution, nor the balls to protect our national interests by standing up to Merkel and Hollande.

England is full! Let the migrant deluge go somewhere else!

Courtesy of arrse (http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/thr...5501/page-1228) it's Armed Forces so don't get all upset because it's not all PC & cosy.

"Interesting" site ARRSE got it from.....

All of the above amounts to the simple fact that the British Establishment is riddled with and controlled by 5th Columnist Traitors. Those evil individuals are hidden in local and national government positions, including educational and NHS offices, the police, fire brigade, the courts and many more. They are the ones who try to stop Freedom of Speech and Thought; they are the ones who pretend to be “do gooder’s” whilst upholding anti-British beliefs and actions; they are the members of secret societies, such as Common Purpose, Freemasonry, Fabians, Bilderbergers and various other groups, none of whom are willing to admit to their secret membership.

It is entirely true that gold can be heated to such an extent that it turns into powder, which is known as the Philosopher’s Stone, and this can be used for all kinds of amazing results – do some research on it and you will be astounded! Information such as this – and the fact that taxation is largely unnecessary, and most mortgages, bank loans, credit card loans, overdrafts and the Monetary System are fraudulent – has been purposely kept from us through an Education System, installed by a ruling class that regards itself as being above and better than the rest of us. They have kept many things from us, but THE ****** ***** will expose this kind of hidden knowledge and we will remove the blinkers that have been placed over your eyes and help you to regain your freedom. Ask yourself this question: why aren’t other organisations exposing these facts?

Protecting BRITISH People: Stop jet planes spraying poisonous chemicals into the British sky

Mmm, chemtrails.

You know, I fully expected chemtrails to get underlined as a spelling mistake. Seems someone in Cupertino has a sense of humour (or maybe is just massively paranoid).

[techguyone]

Mm Fascinating Chris & Hugh, and that has.. what exactly to do with migration? At least try and keep on topic rather than quoting some weirdness from somewhere that's not.

It's no good trying to discredit Arsse, I daresay you could go into any forum - including this one, and find some weirdo obscure thread somewhere and use it to try and make said forum look like swivel eyed loons. I already made the disclaimer that it's a Forces site so you won't get all your lovely liberal PC ******** there, what you DO get however is a viewpoint from serving & ex-serving members who have a viewpoint that as valid as any of the handwringers ones you find lurking here.

In the case of the population density to migrant numbers it serves to put into context how some countries fare much better than others.