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Old 17-06-2016, 23:07   #31
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

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A lot of people have an interest is such topics but 99% are not violent an would never dream of carrying out such a horrific crime. Just like like we have millions of people of from all colours/ religions/ creeds that never carry out violent crimes. But there will always be people that kill in the name of a belief or religion.


I think the we do need to start listening to White British though, instead of standing on them. We are told a minority of blacks/Asians etc are violent as that is the only way their voices can be herd.

White people are told they can't understand racism as you're white, white British are told everything that Britain ever did is your fault, White British males are told told you can't understand Blacks/Asians/Sikhs/ETC.

I think my point is........In the future white British males may well need to be heard, A 40 year old German males is never told he needs to apologise for the Nazis.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

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A lot of people have an interest is such topics but 99% are not violent an would never dream of carrying out such a horrific crime. Just like like we have millions of people of from all colours/ religions/ creeds that never carry out violent crimes. But there will always be people that kill in the name of a belief or religion.


I think the we do need to start listening to White British though, instead of standing on them. We are told a minority of blacks/Asians etc are violent as that is the only way their voices can be herd.

White people are told they can't understand racism as you're white, white British are told everything that Britain ever did is your fault, White British males are told told you can't understand Blacks/Asians/Sikhs/ETC.

I think my point is........In the future white British males may well need to be heard, A 40 year old German males is never told he needs to apologise for the Nazis.
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Old 18-06-2016, 11:42   #33
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

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Thomas Mair, charged with MP Jo Cox's murder, gives his name as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" to UK court
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

She must have been well respected if the Syrian Groups she fought for left messages of condolences, and Obama has even phoned the husband.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

I'm sick of the media hype on it all. This death is tragic and I wouldn't wish this on anyone like this.

But people die every day and some of them have contributed to this country and a whole host of other things but they don't get this kind of media attention and donation pages setup in the form of 500k to charities that they wouldn't have even donated to in the first place.

She was an MP doing a job that millions of use do everyday that wouldn't get this kind of recognition.

I noticed the 77 year old got a quick mention in the news I almost missed it so where it the media coverage on this person absolute joke in my opinion.

like I said it's sad that this has happened I am married with kids and I wouldn't want to get a phone call that something like this has happened but I think this has totally blown out of proportion.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

I'm afraid it's become a bit of a PR opportunity for some within Westminster and as we all know, they rather like jumping on any opportunity to make themselves look better. For all the fine sounding words of folks like Sadiq Khan, the usual self serving nastiness will resume next week after their orgy of navel gazing. It was only a couple of weeks ago that Amber Rudd was being congratulated by all and sundry for her very personal attacks on Boris Johnson and of course Nigel Farage has been fair game for all manner of personal abuse by good Westminster folk.

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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

A sitting MP has been murdered, largely it seems due to their position as an MP, it's a big news story.
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A sitting MP has been murdered, largely it seems due to their position as an MP, it's a big news story.
Yes it is. However, for those directly involved it's no bigger story or loss than anyone else who's suffered a similar fate. We're on the verge of this country's biggest decision for decades and there's plenty of time for the good folk of Westminster Village to do what they're paid to do and pay their respects to a lost colleague. I wonder if Jo Cox would have wanted to campaigning on such an important issue to cease...
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

I read that 40k signatures have been signed so far calling for an end to the referendum in the wake of her death.

Seems the stupid are coming out in mass now I hope they are the ones who haven't got a vote
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

Sadly the ether contains its fair share of idiots who'll put their names to virtually anything. Having said that, 40,000 is less than a third of the number of people who voted for Boaty McBoatface.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36064659
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

http://www.libertygb.org.uk/news/lib...-jo-cox-murder
First time I heard of this lot was on the radio today.

TBH, not sure an unopposed by-election is the right thing, no matter what circumstances caused it, the voters should have a choice, even if the result would seem to be inevitable.
Britain is a democracy, and MPs are elected, not appointed.
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First time I heard of this lot was on the radio today.

TBH, not sure an unopposed by-election is the right thing, no matter what circumstances caused it, the voters should have a choice, even if the result would seem to be inevitable.
Britain is a democracy, and MPs are elected, not appointed.
It's a difficult one. On one hand the idea that you respond to the shooting with another example of democracy is a good one yet on the other hand there would be something weird and uncomfortable about a seat changing hands as the result of the assassination of the sitting MP. Not to mention the atmosphere of campaigning would be depressing and local Labour activists are probably not in the mood.

Overall I think it's the best thing to do.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

I'm still waiting for the 'I'm voting remain for Jo' Facebook posts.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

It'll be a sad day when the national vote is determined by the death of a minor MP rather than the future of our country.

Please note that I am not dissing Jo Cox. RIP.
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Re: Jo Cox MP has been murdered in West Yorkshire

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Yes it is. However, for those directly involved it's no bigger story or loss than anyone else who's suffered a similar fate. .
Know many people that have been shot three times and then stabbed in the street by mad man.
I suppose Lee Rigby wasn't a big deal either.

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But people die every day and some of them have contributed to this country and a whole host of other things but they don't get this kind of media attention and donation pages setup in the form of 500k to charities that they wouldn't have even donated to in the first place.

She was an MP doing a job that millions of use do everyday that wouldn't get this kind of recognition.

I noticed the 77 year old got a quick mention in the news I almost missed it so where it the media coverage on this person absolute joke in my opinion.

like I said it's sad that this has happened I am married with kids and I wouldn't want to get a phone call that something like this has happened but I think this has totally blown out of proportion.
The is no limit to the immensity of the stupidness of that post.

In the context of the current campaign, an MP has been butchered in the street by seemingly a far right head case.

Pretty much a mirror of Lee Rigby being butchered in the street by a head case claiming to do it in the name of Islam.

I didn't see anyone claiming Lee Rigbys murder being "blown out of Porportion"
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