Disgusting disregard of our heritage.

nodrogd · 08-08-2023, 20:13

"The Crooked House", famed as being Britain's wonkiest pub has now been demolished without local authority consent following a fire that gutted it a few days ago. The fire follows a few days after the brewery that owned it had sold it to a "mystery" buyer.

Why it was never made a listed structure I don't know!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2389606.html

ianch99 · 08-08-2023, 20:32

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

"The Crooked House", famed as being Britain's wonkiest pub has now been demolished without local authority consent following a fire that gutted it a few days ago. The fire follows a few days after the brewery that owned it had sold it to a "mystery" buyer.

Why it was never made a listed structure I don't know!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2389606.html

Totally agree. I heard the earth moving equipment was booked before the fire happened

Remember, it is all about the money ....

nomadking · 10-08-2023, 08:21

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Totally agree. I heard the earth moving equipment was booked before the fire happened

Remember, it is all about the money ....

You mean the earth moving equipment that was used to build the mounds of earth to block off the area if caravans turned up?

**Chris** · 10-08-2023, 09:21

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You mean the earth moving equipment that was used to build the mounds of earth to block off the area if caravans turned up?

If you like, yes

jfman · 10-08-2023, 09:24

There’s a spate of old buildings in Glasgow that mysteriously burn down. Including the Art School, twice!

Pierre · 10-08-2023, 09:27

Thought to be arson, in a news report that surprised…………no one

**Hugh** · 10-08-2023, 09:28

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If you like, yes

If only there had been a gate there…

nomadking · 10-08-2023, 09:52

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If only there had been a gate there…

Many examples of where the usual suspects have simply removed any gate.
If it was supposed to be the mounds of earth that blocked the fire brigade, why wouldn't the gate also have blocked them? Proves that earth moving equipment was needed before any fire.

TheDaddy · 10-08-2023, 14:33

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Many examples of where the usual suspects have simply removed any gate.
If it was supposed to be the mounds of earth that blocked the fire brigade, why wouldn't the gate also have blocked them? Proves that earth moving equipment was needed before any fire.

Because they have hydraulic cutters that'd make short work of the padlock and a lot of the time they have a key anyway, that's why the gate wouldn't have blocked them

1andrew1 · 10-08-2023, 14:45

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You mean the earth moving equipment that was used to build the mounds of earth to block off the area if caravans turned up?

I think you misspelt fire engines.

**Hugh** · 10-08-2023, 16:53

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You mean the earth moving equipment that was used to build the mounds of earth to block off the area if caravans turned up?

Why would the Caravan Club be going there?

Sirius · 10-08-2023, 19:21

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Why would the Caravan Club be going there?

They go anywhere they like specially if it upsets the locals. As for mysterious fires we have had a few in Warrington where the local council had just refused planning permission for demolition so flats could be built in place of the old buildings

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-32305364

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...-away-with-it/

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...-famous-faces/

nodrogd · 11-08-2023, 11:30

We had a situation a few years ago on a new development in our town. A big complex was built along with a cinema & two night clubs. There was also supposed to be a hotel built on the sight, but the deal fell through & it remained scrub land.

A while later twenty caravans illegally entered the site, whence things started disappearing out of locals gardens & sheds. Then came the weekend, with hoards of youngsters tipping out from the nightclubs at 2 & 3am. The caravan occupants got into a confrontation with them & ended up being pelted with empty beer bottles & anything else that was to hand. Needless to say the local council needed to take no action to evict them. The caravans had mysteriously gone by the following morning.

GrimUpNorth · 11-08-2023, 12:51

Some years ago a couple of my team met a developer on site to do some background noise measurements. He told them the owner of the derelict house adjacent to the site they wanted to develop wasn't for selling but it wouldn't be an issue 'in a couple of weeks' and as if by magic it burned down soon after.

I think this sort of thing goes on pretty often, the number of old mills that've burned down in Bradford over the years. I think some owners see it as a victimless crime as fire insurance is often the last thing they stop paying.

**Chris** · 11-08-2023, 13:05

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

We had a situation a few years ago on a new development in our town. A big complex was built along with a cinema & two night clubs. There was also supposed to be a hotel built on the sight, but the deal fell through & it remained scrub land.

A while later twenty caravans illegally entered the site, whence things started disappearing out of locals gardens & sheds. Then came the weekend, with hoards of youngsters tipping out from the nightclubs at 2 & 3am. The caravan occupants got into a confrontation with them & ended up being pelted with empty beer bottles & anything else that was to hand. Needless to say the local council needed to take no action to evict them. The caravans had mysteriously gone by the following morning.

Wally World by any chance? If so, that was meant to be a Ladbroke Group hotel, but their focus changed once they got involved with Hilton. Nobody seemed to think that was a good spot for a luxury hotel for some reason.