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Old 24-01-2017, 13:04   #3886
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The problem with a bill is that although it will go through, cleverstick remoaners will try to tack on amendments that may restrict our freedom on bargaining.
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Old 24-01-2017, 13:58   #3887
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Good to see Justice prevailing

At least this whole crazy process will now be open to scrutiny from our elected representatives. Always be wary of Governments trying to rush things through, it's usually for the worse. Can't see why Mother Theresa's 'timetable' is so sacrosanct anyway; political considerations like when the next election is shouldn't come into it , better to get it right if we have to do it.
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Old 24-01-2017, 14:04   #3888
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Good to see Justice prevailing

At least this whole crazy process will now be open to scrutiny from our elected representatives. Always be wary of Governments trying to rush things through, it's usually for the worse. Can't see why Mother Theresa's 'timetable' is so sacrosanct anyway; political considerations like when the next election is shouldn't come into it , better to get it right if we have to do it.
It had nothing to do with Justice, it was merely a legal point.

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Gina Miller, the key claimant in the most important constitutional case to ever be heard by the supreme court, said that the government was only facing the challenge because of “how poorly drafted” the original referendum bill had been.
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Old 24-01-2017, 14:46   #3889
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Gina Miller, the key claimant in the most important constitutional case to ever be heard by the supreme court, said that the government was only facing the challenge because of “how poorly drafted” the original referendum bill had been.
......and she doesn't want brexit to happen
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Old 24-01-2017, 14:58   #3890
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Yes open to scrutiny by the same elected representatives that didn't want anything to do with this and palmed it off onto the public and then were unhappy when we didn't vote how we were supposed too. Personally these days the less our divided self serving elected representatives have to do with anything the better it's likely to turn out we can now enjoy the spectacle of posturing and tough talking till things get done great result.
 
Old 24-01-2017, 14:59   #3891
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......and she doesn't want brexit to happen
But that is no big deal as we all know its going to happen RR.
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Theresa May won't be too unhappy today.
Spot on. The vote has already been rehearsed (and 'won') and the devolved governments excluded as a bonus. A good day for the UK Government.

A one sentence Bill and Miss Miller can return to obscurity and the other fella can get back to cut and blow jobs.

We all happy .
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A one sentence Bill and Miss Miller can return to obscurity and the other fella can get back to cut and blow jobs.

We all happy .
Not so easy.

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Government lawyers have warned Theresa May that drawing up a very short piece of legislation in response to Tuesday’s supreme court ruling on whether MPs should be given a vote on Brexit may not be adequate...

... politicians and strategists have received advice from internal government lawyers who fear that even if the ruling allows a one-line bill, failure to provide enough detail could leave the government vulnerable to further legal appeals in the future.
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Old 24-01-2017, 16:18   #3894
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The fact that it's been demonstrated that we need parliment to do this isn't really naffing me off (as long as parliment does do it )
What naffs me off is:
1) that some/many leave voters are suddenly so interested in parlimentary sovereignty whilst saying/fibbing "of course we agree that brexit should happen"
......whilst keeping their fingers crossed that it won't happen now that it has to be put to parliment.
2) many leave bigwigs are trying to convince us that all this is necessary because we "didn't really know what we were voting for".....when they were the ones who repeatedly told us exactly what would happen if we voted leave.
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Old 24-01-2017, 18:54   #3895
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The fact that it's been demonstrated that we need parliment to do this isn't really naffing me off (as long as parliment does do it )
What naffs me off is:
1) that some/many leave voters are suddenly so interested in parlimentary sovereignty whilst saying/fibbing "of course we agree that brexit should happen"
......whilst keeping their fingers crossed that it won't happen now that it has to be put to parliment.
2) many leave bigwigs are trying to convince us that all this is necessary because we "didn't really know what we were voting for".....when they were the ones who repeatedly told us exactly what would happen if we voted leave.
I agree with a lot of what you say about those dastardly leave voters. Whether you meant to say this or not is an entirely different matter. Kursk agreeing with my earlier post and now me agreeing with a lot of your post, we must all have entered an alternative universe.

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Kursk agreeing with my earlier post and now me agreeing with a lot of your post, we must all have entered an alternative universe.
We have discussed at length, negotiated even, and with mutual regard for the future of our Country, we are finding common ground.

It is as it should be .
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Lets bring trump in he'll sort the mess out
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He probably would!
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MP's want a white paper fully outlining the governments negotiating plan yes because things won't be hard enough without one of our great elected representatives leaking the details to the EU. The fun and games are already starting and by the time they have finished our position will be worse then if the talking heads had just left it alone as they always wanted to when they assumed the UK public would vote to remain.
 
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