Boxing MMA - Page 15

TheDaddy · 17-10-2016, 08:26

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Bellew charges Haye post fight. Delusional man.

I hope Haye takes the fight, forget this Heavyweight drama. Bellew is the best of a rubbish division, he's talking crap like that to a man that knocked out everyone he beat at Cruiserweight and is knocking out Heavyweights for fun.

Bellew is hopelessly out of his depth here. The first time he faced someone with a decent punch, they buried him. The outcome is the same here. Get Bellew to Heavyweight and Haye will bury him. Haye has put too much work in to get into his current shape, weight gains etc. He won't be dropping down for anyone.

Insane from Bellew, another gobby waste of 'Talent' Adonis Stevenson nearly decapitated him with a straight left. Better sort that horrible defence and wonky chin

Anyone with half a brain can telegraph his left hand too, someone needs to teach him the purpose of having two hands.

Pah he beat Apollo Creeds son didn't he...

adzii_nufc · 02-11-2016, 18:07

AJ to fight Molina, then Klitschko.

Fair play. I don't think Wlad actually still has it to be fair, I don't think he has the power to put Joshua on the floor or the speed and that jab to outbox him. With that said, I still repeat this, David Haye got to Klitschko numerous times and Wlad's instant response was to tie him up, Haye troubled him in that lopsided fight but that's overlooked. Joshua could well put Wlad down. Watch that space.

The bad side, taking on Klitschko puts Joshua at the top, he can't then go cherry picking bums. Haye and Wilder are going to want their scrap with him and I still feel either of those could very much bury him. Klitschko isn't going to throw anything near the power of Haye or Wilder in fairness but in all it's great experience for Joshua. His monumental rise still bothers me though.

adzii_nufc · 06-11-2016, 20:13

UFC 205: Night of Champions

Sat 12th Nov, 12am BT Sports 2

Lightweight Eddie Alvarez vs. Conor McGregor (cFW)
Welterweight Tyron Woodley vs. Stephen Thompson
Women's SW Joanna Jędrzejczyk vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz
Middleweight Chris Weidman vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Kelvin Gastelum vs. Donald Cerrone
Women's BW Miesha Tate vs. Raquel Pennington

Bold denotes defending champion, in the case of McGregor, the FW title will not be on the line, the Lightweight title will be defended at that weight by Alvarez. If McGregor wins he will be the first ever two weight champion in history and be the unified, featherweight and lightweight champion of the world. cfw= current Featherweight champion. All three title fights will be 5x5 minutes for a total of 25 minutes. Every other fight is 3x5 minute rounds giving a 15 minute total.

Undercard is relevant, this is arguably the biggest UFC card in history.

Featherweight Frankie Edgar vs. Jeremy Stephens
Lightweight Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Michael Johnson
Middleweight Rashad Evans vs. Tim Kennedy
Welterweight Vicente Luque vs. Belal Muhammad

adzii_nufc · 13-11-2016, 12:42

Conor McGregor knocks out Eddie Alvarez to become The undisputed Lightweight and Featherweight champion. Becoming the first ever dual weight champion.

adzii_nufc · 25-11-2016, 17:25

Haye vs Bellew 4th march at Heavyweight.

Bellew's gob will see him utterly destroyed here. Keeps talking about the power he doesn't actually possess against a guy yet to be rocked at heavyweight and a guy that literally knocked out every cruiserweight he beat.

When Bellew gets caught he looks like a deer in the headlights. If Haye hits him and he will.. Bellew will fall apart like he did against someone far weaker than Haye in Adonis.

Money as usual. British boxing at its finest.

Bellew throughs that predictable left, gets a right overhand in return, job done, goodnight.

Haye vs Enzo part 2 to be fair.

adzii_nufc · 10-12-2016, 15:16

AJ vs Molina
Chisora vs Whyte

He's starting to step up a bit now is AJ. Molina is no joke, he's no legend either but by far the best AJ has faced. My hope for this fight is AJ takes some heavy shots and gets past them because he's still not getting past Haye and Wilder without taking a battering on that chin first. Tad worried Molina could floor him and really humble him. Ideally, Joshua 10th round knockout, get some rounds under his belt, some experience, take some shots then put him away in style. An early finish whilst looking great, does nothing for Joshua.

Chisora vs Whyte, no comment, absolute bum fight.

adzii_nufc · 10-12-2016, 22:49

Chisora vs Whyte is up. Let the battle of the bums commence!

AJ hype train rolls on, that was awful though. Nothing learned, nothing gained. Molina was a mirror image of Audley Harrison, a truly awful 'boxing' match. The same Molina that faced off against Wilder? Nope, came, did an Audley, threw nothing, went down, goes home paid.

denphone · 11-12-2016, 06:59

What made me laugh this morning was the BBC sports reporter on BBC Breakfast who was comparing AJ with the greats of old.

adzii_nufc · 11-12-2016, 19:52

That's Eddie Hearn literally selling people hype. It's always happened and it's actually damaging especially since the fighters themselves start believing their own BS.

Examples in question, Amir Khan early on often dubbed as Prince Nas v2 and look what happened, he got so overly confident in his talent he forgot a prime aspect of boxing that he can no longer harness which is a good defence. Something not even Virgil Hunter can gift him now. So whilst being the fastest and most accurate puncher in the division with phenomenal footwork, he just has absolutely nothing in his arsenal to avoid counter punches at times. I say at times because on his day he is literally unbeatable on points. Khan's biggest enemy is himself. Garcia and Canelo being the most recent, both sloppy counter shots that put him down. You know, shots that Mayweather, Brook, Manny, Garcia himself, Maidana, would never get caught with. One of Khan's best abilities has phased out too, he threw one of the best body shots at welter, famously dropping Maidana and then Collazo.. only to stop?

Ricky Hatton, was on the path most failed British boxers have, a hype train built with bum fighters, he had one major bout with Tszyu and was amazing but get past that hometown advantage and land yourself in the US as a Prizefighter. We quickly learned that the Welterweight division isn't confined to the walls of Manchester and he was horribly exposed by far better talent in Mayweather and Manny, being absolutely dismantled by both. Point being is despite his flaws, Amir Khan is a far better boxer than Ricky Hatton ever was. Despite Khan being on his back four times, he's still an American PPV seller and has outshone Hatton and Brook over and over with fights against Maidana, Alexander and so on.

Boxing casuals as I call them, like to get behind a big name fighter early on and quickly assume he's the greatest thing of all time. I remember when David Price was future world champion

Again though, you can not measure a guys ability and especially his power when he's literally punching bums. Still that doesn't mean it's not there. There's no test, so far every bum has literally stood directly in front of him and then backed away, basically resulting in a sparring session with an idle bag. My argument like so many others is that your David Haye's and Wilder's are so much quicker, will never be stood still and will hit like a truck. Again a half solid punch from Whyte had Joshua reeling. There's no way he still stands if Wilder and Haye crack him with those shots.

People are still giving Haye flak for returning. He's massive now, still holds the speed and still has a one punch finish in him. He's bad news for Joshua because I still don't see Joshua lasting 3 rounds with him and that's not a bad thing, that's just recognizing that Joshua is still a young talent. I've said it so many times, Derek Chisora will give you a fight so make it happen.

Ideally, Haye could get a vacant title and we'd have multiple world champions but as you can see, Haye is only interested in cashing in on petty rivalries. I'd also like to see Joshua ditch idiots like Hearn and move off to the US early and get a great trainer and promoter underneath him as early as possible, that's how you become a Klitschko and not a David Price.

The respect and acknowledgement between Joshua and Klitschko was great. Wlad should be worried though. Said this before, the small version of Haye cracked him three times and Wlad wobbled and grabbed hold every single time. Joshua won't be leant on the way Haye was so if Joshua does hold the power he's supposed to hold I reckon he could put him down and out.

adzii_nufc · 14-12-2016, 12:09

Khan vs Brook 2017

Interesting fight.

Brook can throw big shots, Khan has the skill and speed to outpoint him. Khan knocking him out as quoted certainly isn't happening though. Brook has nothing to lose though, is finally appearing out from under that Hearn shell.

adzii_nufc · 31-12-2016, 06:08

Ronda The Fraud Rousey gets obliterated in under a minute on UFC return.

Laughable. Career is done. No defence, wonky chin, a year off and nothing learned from the past fight with Holm. A one trick pony that was sold to the world as a legendary figure in fighting. Calling out grown men, a bad attitude in the ring and so forth. Horribly exposed for the fighter she actually is. Embarrassing.

TheDaddy · 31-12-2016, 07:25

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Ronda The Fraud Rousey gets obliterated in under a minute on UFC return.

Laughable. Career is done. No defence, wonky chin, a year off and nothing learned from the past fight with Holm. A one trick pony that was sold to the world as a legendary figure in fighting. Calling out grown men, a bad attitude in the ring and so forth. Horribly exposed for the fighter she actually is. Embarrassing.

Let's hope Ronda Rousey's career is the last death of 2016

adzii_nufc · 31-12-2016, 14:34

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Let's hope Ronda Rousey's career is the last death of 2016

Heh,

I would sympathize with her because it was pretty horrible to watch but her attitude stinks and she started believing her own BS. The UFC created this mess by over promoting a fighter that was on top of an empty division and hadn't really had a half decent challenge. Unfortunately we found out last year that she has no boxing skills worth mentioning and despite a year off, tried to continue with said 'skills'

The sheer audacity to go as far as calling out grown men like Floyd Mayweather when you have boxing skills as poor as that.. embarrassing.

http://giant.gfycat.com/LiveSeveralIncatern.gif A year ago

https://gfycat.com/BlindBlindIndianskimmer 15 days ago.

That is appalling form for someone that was actually a world champion.

Points to make from the clips.

Her defence, you don't teach that in a year, it's shot.
Her straight right hands - they are beyond shocking for something that is the most basic of punch besides a jab. It's amateur level stuff but this is a Judo athlete that simply can not box.
Her head/chin never move, both clips show ridiculous openings for counter shots, something that Holm exposed a year ago. What Holm didn't bank on was that Rousey's defence really is that bad and the fight could've been done way sooner.

Kabaal · 31-12-2016, 15:00

I don't usually watch UFC and only watched it this morning because of the hype. All i can say is thank god the two fights before Ronda's were good, her fight was a complete waste of hers and everybody elses time, she didn't look like she belonged anywhere near the ring.

adzii_nufc · 31-12-2016, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Kabaal

I don't usually watch UFC and only watched it this morning because of the hype. All i can say is thank god the two fights before Ronda's were good, her fight was a complete waste of hers and everybody elses time, she didn't look like she belonged anywhere near the ring.

I generally only post cards worth watching for anyone new to the sport (I watch them all anyway)

It's just to attract new fans to the sport by avoiding cards I think will end up being a dud.

The Cruz fight you're on about is the fight that made sure I never posted this card. It's usually a 5 round snoozefest with him but man that was a hell of a fight, absolutely outclassed and I think a rematch would only serve Cody better now he knows he has everything he needs to trouble Cruz.

Onto Ronda again. No, she doesn't belong anywhere near the ring. She helped build the division and that's the only credit I have for her because other than that she's arrogant and alongside Dana White, a fraud. Fact is, the division is finally coming into it's own with better fighters and top talent coming through. Ronda's half assed skills won't cut it anymore. Her and Paul 'CM Punk' Brooks go hand in hand. Except his skills were never there. Again, the GIF's I posted are evidence of some pure BS, no one with that kind of form should be allowed to compete at a top level. She's essentially a punching bag for anyone that can throw a decent combo together.

Tonight marks the return of the legendary BJ penn. It's a card and a fight probably not worth watching even though it'll roll round here at 3am and after the New Year.

The way UFC and Dana white sold Rousey off as some phenom of MMA was disgraceful though, $3 million is her quoted earnings for the fight. The face of MMA is Conor McGregor, the only man that delivers, the most exciting man in the sport and by far the new 'Anderson Silva' of the sport. He literally runs UFC at this point and what he says, goes.

UFC 208 has a half decent card with some guaranteed action.
UFC 209 has a guaranteed knockout finish main event. Overeem vs Hunt. Overeem has a glass chin but great power. Hunt has a pretty solid chin and incredible one punch finishing power, someone will get floored and it'll likely be Overeem.
UFC 210 has yet to be announced but it's booked for the MGM in Vegas so expect a stacked card and a McGregor main event. Possibly the HW title fight too

Note: Not actually sure that 209 main even will go ahead as it's still unclear whether Mark Hunt is pursuing legal action against UFC over Brock Lesnar's PED usage and the fact Lesnar was paid as a winning fighter despite being stripped of the win since.