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Old 11-01-2017, 18:54   #3766
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Sources have it that the Govt. has lost the court case.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...may-article-50

Doubt it will really change anything though. MPs are too scared of their seats to vote for the good of the country.
It won't change anything, I heard gina miller interviewed last night and was impressed by her, she has a lot more about her in terms of integrity than most politicians I hear interviewed and if, if her claims about reasons for the case are true then She is a true patriot imo.
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Old 11-01-2017, 20:49   #3767
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My my old boy you seem to be following Papa in developing convenient memory loss as well but l forgive you.
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Old 11-01-2017, 22:07   #3768
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Strange how the links posted all seem to be one way, in line with opinions you have previously stated.

What a strange coincidence....
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May should call the vote on the day she loses the court case, if she does. I don't understand the drama from the Government on this, they know full well they have the votes. There may be attempts from some to be attach conditions but the public atmosphere will make that difficult and it would only be a minority of them anyway.

I wonder if the Government wouldn't actually mind more time to prepare and are finding this a useful way to delay whilst blaming others (who'll happily go along with any delay).
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I wonder if the Government wouldn't actually mind more time to prepare and are finding this a useful way to delay whilst blaming others (who'll happily go along with any delay).
That is the only logical reason
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That is the only logical reason
They still seem to be making it up as they go along. Take today's £1,000 levy for employing EU staff which was suggested in the morning by Home Office minister Robert Goodwill and then ruled out by Theresa May in the afternoon following its condemnation. Seem to be picking up policy launch tips from Jeremy Corbyn!
http://news.sky.com/story/firms-coul...rexit-10725124
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My my old boy you seem to be following Papa in developing convenient memory loss as well but l forgive you.
Not at all. Mr Carney has evidently begun the process of distancing himself from his previous, ridiculous predictions about Brexit. Good for him; it takes courage to admit the man-in-the-street has more incisive leadership qualities.

It is part of a broader remoan tactic of embracing the terms of our EU departure so that our future success can be claimed for their acumen .

Even the Chancellor is at it. He said ‘People like me who believed that it was better to remain inside the EU and to campaign for reform within, have moved on'. He too has realised that he got it wrong.
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

Whatever the outcome of this, there will always be those who argue it would have been better had we done something different. The truth is that whatever we do there are multiple factors at work. Carney's rightly pointing out that the risks of Brexit don't all lie on this side of the Channel but what we actually doing is trying to negotiate something that's never been done with an institution which is itself in a state of change and facing huge challenges to its fundamental raison d'etre. Depending on what happens in places like Greece and much more importantly Italy, France and Germany we may well find that what seemed like the best way forward at the outset is no longer the most desirable or even realistic. You can be sure that whatever concerns and difficulties May and her team have they are more than replicated in the likes of Berlin, Paris, Rome etc. Don't expect the respective governments or Eurocrats to admit the scale of their problems or doubts however. Their entire existence is based upon an expanding EU and ever closer union and they'll continue to pursue that goal until they get their way or it falls apart. That's going to be the case irrespective of what the UK eventually agrees and yes we will feel a considerable impact from any EU problems even when we are outside the club. Hopefully the UK will have time to build new trade deals and exploit new markets in the meantime which can help mitigate the effects but if/when the EU's wheels do come off it will have global implications.
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Old 12-01-2017, 16:40   #3774
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But I thought he was a useless Bremoaner who should be fired?
he is working out his notice -but its good of him to finally tell the truth ,maybe its because he's not influenced by dodgy dave any more
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

Note Liam Fox's absence in drawing up the speech.

Theresa May expected to outline Brexit strategy on Tuesday
Theresa May will make a major speech on Brexit on Tuesday, Downing Street has confirmed.
The Prime Minister has been under pressure to set out the Government's strategy ahead of triggering Article 50 by the end of March and starting formal EU divorce negotiations.
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson and Brexit Secretary David Davis have been involved in drawing up the contents of the speech.
http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-ma...esday-10726281

Will be interesting to see what happens to the £ after the speech.

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Note Liam Fox's absence in drawing up the speech.
Theresa May expected to outline Brexit strategy on Tuesday
Theresa May will make a major speech on Brexit on Tuesday, Downing Street has confirmed.
The Prime Minister has been under pressure to set out the Government's strategy ahead of triggering Article 50 by the end of March and starting formal EU divorce negotiations.
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson and Brexit Secretary David Davis have been involved in drawing up the contents of the speech.
http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-ma...esday-10726281
no doubt it will trigger another bout of pointless remoaning and straw clutching ideas .
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no doubt it will trigger another bout of pointless remoaning and straw clutching ideas .
As always, prepare for the worst and hope for the best. The fact that Liam's being sidelined is a positive, shame about the other two.
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no doubt it will trigger another bout of pointless remoaning and straw clutching ideas .
Don't forget about the court case that will follow.
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Don't forget about the court case that will follow.
another golden opportunity for a money launderer and a hair dresser to throw a spanner in the works .
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another golden opportunity for a money launderer and a hair dresser to throw a spanner in the works .
How dare those leave-voting hairdressers sabotage what they voted for!
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