Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

Of which I neither read, nor want to.

Yes you do Mick - MrK knows everything about everyone remember and everyone who disagrees with him reads the Mail or the Express and believes everything they print except when it comes to fax rolls and the NHS...

It's a typical distraction technique used by some folks who've lost the Brexit argument but aren't big enough to admit it or are still in denial. Either way they're losers and they clearly don't like it.

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes you do Mick - MrK knows everything about everyone remember and everyone who disagrees with him reads the Mail or the Express and believes everything they print except when it comes to fax rolls and the NHS...

It's a typical distraction technique used by some folks who've lost the Brexit argument but aren't big enough to admit it or are still in denial. Either way they're losers and they clearly don't like it.

Spot on, we aren't allowed to form our own opinions based on true facts that we see, feel around us.

[1andrew1]

Anyone remember the headlines in The Express recently? New border rules are just EU’s bid to punish Britain

More Fake News I'm afraid folks! The reality is that the stricter rules were proposed six months before the EU referendum in December 2015. The controls affect all passengers entering and leaving the border-free Schengen area, not just UK passengers. The six EU countries not in the Schengen area Bulgaria, Cyprus, Hungary, Ireland, Romania, and the UK.
https://fullfact.org/europe/european...-brexit-blame/

[heero_yuy]

Some 68 per cent of the public back a so-called Hard Brexit – modest tariffs, small contributions to Brussels – over a Soft one – free movement and ongoing budget payments.

And more than half of those who voted Remain a year ago support taking back control of our borders – and leaving the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice.

Asked about a divorce payment, nearly 54.7 per cent of Remain voters back paying nothing almost identical to the 56.9 per cent of Leave voters.

Nearly 4,000 people were presented with various Brexit scenarios by LSE and Oxford University.

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Lap it up remoaners.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

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Lap it up moaners.

Interesting and large poll, thanks for sharing, but I thought we'd agree to halt the name-calling?

[1andrew1]

Honestly never thought I would see this happen even with the Brexit vote.

Pound will be worth less than a euro by early 2018, Morgan Stanley predicts
Analysts from the US investment bank said sterling could fall below parity by early next year as prospects on the continent improve and the UK outlook worsens.
The bank sees a further downturn for the pound, which has already lost ground since the Brexit vote last June. Weak economic growth and increased political uncertainty as EU divorce talks show little signs of progress, will weigh on the UK currency, Morgan Stanley said on Friday.
...Morgan Stanley analysts said that the defeat of populist movements that had threatened to take control in France and the Netherlands would help bolster the euro for years to come.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7888966.html

[Mr K]

Glad I haven't changed my Euros back to Pounds. They could be a very solid investment.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Glad I haven't changed my Euros back to Pounds. They could be a very solid investment.

It won't make any difference to me as l am Ad infinitum meaning venturing abroad is a no no permanently.

Walking away now, instead of waiting two years would solve a lot of issues. This two year waiting nonsense.

Very little progress is being made causing uncertainty. Yep, we need to cut our ties immediately and leave the corrupt establishment.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

It won't make any difference to me as l am Ad infinitum meaning venturing abroad is a no no permanently.

Go for it Den, always ways and means. I highly recommend Venice or Barcelona. You'll probably get better healthcare in the EU.

[Osem]

Yeah the Eurocrats seem to think that the more uncertainty they cause, the more likely they are to get what they want at the UK's expense. We mustn't let them do that and thankfully the public mood is far removed from that which certain remainers here like to pretend. The EU is used is to getting it's own way and singlemindedly pursuing its own single state ideology which ought to be the biggest reason for leaving.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah the Eurocrats seem to think that the more uncertainty they cause, the more likely they are to get what they want at the UK's expense. We mustn't let them do that and thankfully the public mood is far removed from that which certain remainers here like to pretend. The EU is used to getting it's own way and that ought to be one of the buggest reasons for leaving.

Um, fact check, it was the UK that decided to leave the EU and not the other way round! So the initial uncertainty has been caused by that decision and worsened by disagreements in the cabinet as to what our negotiating position should be. Whilst the UK has published a paper on one area, the EU has published its negotiating position in all areas. The EU has therefore given clarity and certainty to the situation, it's the UK Government that has failed to deliver here.

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah the Eurocrats seem to think that the more uncertainty they cause, the more likely they are to get what they want at the UK's expense. We mustn't let them do that and thankfully the public mood is far removed from that which certain remainers here like to pretend. The EU is used to getting it's own way and that ought to be one of the buggest reasons for leaving.

It's really pissed off those old pissants in the EU, that their prize Stallion (That's us, major contributor), has the left the stable, they're trying to contain the situation, but with Polexit becoming increasingly likely, they really are trying to close the doors before more horses bolt. Only problem is, the hinges to the doors are loose.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

It's really pissed off those old pissants in the EU, that their prize Stallion (That's us, major contributor), has the left the stable, they're trying to contain the situation, but with Polexit becoming increasingly likely, they really are trying to close the doors before more horses bolt. Only problem is, the hinges to the doors are loose.

First of all it was the Eurozone will fail in five years. People said that ten years ago. Then this year it was France and the Netherlands leaving.
Now that those two stable doors have been shut it's time to clutch at the straw in the stable and select an EU net recipient and Russia-fearing Poland as a likely country to leave. Won't happen. As I posted from City AM, Poland's agenda is to maximise the settlement from the UK not leave.

[Mr K]

Everyday day and in every way, posts from die hard Brexiters become more desperate. Even they are now seeing the consequences for our economy, and are getting increasingly angry about it. However who can they blame ? the EU for forcing us to leave?