Unstoppable migration?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Sadly, l believe that most 'cheap' jobs will go to migrants, as the money they earn will probably be double as to what they will earn in there native country.

I believe that Migrants should only be allowed into this country - if they have a job and can prove it

If you watch Docs on Tv, on Immigration officers, if someone comes from abroad, and they say they are here to work - the officers check those details. If proved right they are allowed in on Visa's otherwise they are put on the first flight back home

This what should happen - IF THEY HAVE WORK, THEN FINE

Nothing to do with the fact that people who enter this country are prepared to do the jobs that some people on benefits refuse to do?

[Osem]

I was listening to a govt. official in Kos this morning who was talking about the refugees who've arrived there. She stressed how overwhelmed they were and how all they wanted to do was process the arrivals as soon as possible then let them on their way to Athens and from there to where they really want to go elsewhere in the EU. Therein lies the problem, nobody really wants these people and the MO seems to be give them some papers and off they go to the destinations of their choice as long as that's somewhere else.

[Osem]

HMS Bulwark is sailing towards Libya at top speed to take part in an operation to save thousands of migrants stranded at sea.


In an unprecedented move, all European naval ships in the region have been ordered to go the area.

Intelligence has suggested that as many as 14 migrant vessels are on the open water.

It comes as a senior naval officer says that up to half a million migrants are gathering on Libya's border to try and make the dangerous journey to mainland Europe.

http://news.sky.com/story/1497444/na...rescue-mission

[MarsBar]

Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

For the pool of highly skilled people the coalition has made recruiting very difficult. I do not expect a solo Tory government (under the UKIP pressure) will improve the situation.

We have jobs, that we are allowed to only hire British/EU people, that lived at least 3-4 years in the UK. And we cannot fill them with good people, we hire monkeys because they lived here for at least 3-4 years.

On the other hand, we have few jobs that we are allowed to hire from OS/EU without the residency restriction, he have top candidates, 100 applicants for 1 job.

Why can't they do that for all skills? EU allows them to put restrictions on football clubs that a certain number of footballers have be home grown? I would love the FA's ratio of homegrown/others.

Or do I miss something like the tampon tax (0% in Ireland but 5% in the UK and we are not allowed to reduce it!)

Do you call them monkeys when hiring them or human beings?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by MarsBar

Do you call them monkeys when hiring them or human beings?

At a guess I'd say neither. You ever been called a human being in an interview.

[MarsBar]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

At a guess I'd say neither. You ever been called a human being in an interview.

Only on 606 footy forum

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

At a guess I'd say neither. You ever been called a human being in an interview.

I have. he told me he's fed up of hiring monkeys and wanted a human being.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I have. he told me he's fed up of hiring monkeys and wanted a human being.

And that's why you didn't get the job Gary

[Osem]

EU interior ministers are to discuss how to deal with tens of thousands of migrants trying to enter Europe each year by crossing the Mediterranean.

A key issue at the talks in Luxembourg is a plan to distribute asylum seekers more evenly across all 28 EU states.

The crisis has put a huge strain on Italian, Greek and Maltese resources.

But some northern and eastern European nations argue that migrants should not be forced to move to countries where they do not want to settle.

More than 1,800 migrants have died in the Mediterranean so far this year - a 20-fold increase on the same period in 2014. The majority had set sail aboard rickety, overcrowded boats from strife-torn Libya.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33144575

It's not going to be easy to separate the genuine asylum seekers from the economic migrants and others with more dubious intentions. According to BBC radio, the Italians are not even fingerprinting new arrivals but merely issuing tourist visas to them to head off where they wish.

[Gary L]

In Geography lessons at schools now. they point to countries on the map of the world and say "that one's empty.. that one's empty.. that one's nearly empty.."

and the tiny little one is full up to the brim. look you can see some of the people in the surrounding water. they fell off.

[Osem]

It's perfectly evident that these migrants have their own ideas as to where they want to go - the shanty towns in N. France are proof of that - so if they're dispersed around the EU, how on Earth is anyone going to prevent them just leaving their allocated nation and heading somewhere else at some point? Nothing I suspect.

Also, it's been suggested that we might take some on a temporary basis but can you imagine the fuss and legal argument that'd inevitably ensue if, a few years down the line, people who've lived here, got jobs, formed relationships, had families etc. were told they'd be heading back to Syria or wherever? In reality it isn't going to happen is it and those who're recommending this option must know that just like they did when the Kosovans came here in large numbers on the same basis.

[Osem]

Well it's all kicking off in Calais, with migrants taking advantage of French strikes to try everything to get onto and into vehicles passing on their way to the UK. The Mayor of Calais says it's our fault and the local French say they can't cope with the number and increasing frustration of the migrants queuing up to get into the UK. Everyone seems to be overlooking the reality that these people have come through several (if not numerous) safe countries (including the one they're stuck in) to get where they are now and have refused to claim asylum in any of them. They're now threatening people to try and force their way into the UK by whatever means they can. I have every sympathy for the drivers and hauliers who're effectively being forced to do the policing and feel the French authorities need to do more to arrest and remove the traffickers amongst these people. As it is, they seem content to let the situation grow worse and are happy to blame our less than tight border controls rather than look at the system which apparently allows migrants to pass freely through Europe and choose where they seek refuge.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33240475

Do we help pay for the policing of Calais? If not that might be a possible way forward. Either that or offer to take over the port and surrounding area and enforce security ourselves.

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Not sure what the long-term alternative is. Obviously addressing the problems in the nations they are fleeing would be good but that's an even bigger task.

[Osem]

IIRC we have paid towards the security measures (e.g. fences) but don't pay towards their policing. We're going to have to do something because right now these people's expectation is that if they manage to get into the UK they'll be OK - get benefits, be able to work illegally etc. The extreme lengths they're prepared to go to in order to get here will pale into insignificance when compared to the efforts they'll make to remain here so removing them is likely to be extremely difficult.

[Hom3r]

I think the French are extracting the Urine, saying its our problem.

Why are they allowing these people to cross their country without being challenged?

Because they want to come to the UK.