Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by roughbeast

I have always favoured a nationalised network to all premises, but available for ISPs to deliver to the punter.

The kind of money that is being invested in HS2 would be better spent on a national fibre network. Imagine the employment that would be generated, in all parts of the country, by the construction work alone, not to mention the boost it would give to commerce everywhere as high quality broadband becomes available in every corner of the country.

Indeed, that's what I was hinting at. The money it takes to shave 30mins off a train journey to London is more than it would take to blanket the entire country in fibre. The economies of scale alone would likely make it cheaper than copper and the benefits would last generations.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Kushan

I don't disagree, but I'm not sure how that could apply to the likes of Virgin in a way that's sustainable without pumping a lot of public money into it.

Given the public money pumped into the USO for landline phones, the postal service, and BDUK, I don't see the issue with spending some of it on subsidizing the remaining "non-economically feasible" properties.

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

The kind of money that is being invested in HS2

Don't get me started on HS2... Building any classic railways in this day and age is a farce.

[Harryn9000]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

Same here dude, the most i can get through openreach is 53/16 whereas on VM i pretty much always get 152/12 (recently significantly more)

i'd be lucky to get that, id not even get above 10mb off bt atm

[MrIca]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Very few customers in that enterprise for right now.

BT, Sky, etc, could try leaning harder on Openreach to provide more competitive technology and indicating a desire to pay for it, rather than in the case of Sky and especially TalkTalk complaining about the price Openreach charge them for FTTC.

If CPs like Sky and TalkTalk were willing to pay more who knows maybe we wouldn't be going down the g.fast route and FTTP might be more viable.

Bear in mind, in areas where OR provide FTTP BT Consumer is the only major ISP to provide service over it. It's not a perfect example as the cost to the CPs should be similar as far as linking their kit into the Openreach FTTP. But there has to be something that's financially putting them off Openreach FTTP.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Harryn9000

i'd be lucky to get that, id not even get above 10mb off bt atm

I was getting 10Mb off BT a couple months ago, now I'm getting 80/20. There's still hope yet!

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I was getting 10Mb off BT a couple months ago, now I'm getting 80/20. There's still hope yet!

It's just occurred to me that your actual download and upload speeds (80Mbps and 20Mbps) are the same as your download/upload ratio as a percentage (80%:20%).

I don't know why this amuses me but it does.

[Harryn9000]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I was getting 10Mb off BT a couple months ago, now I'm getting 80/20. There's still hope yet!

The cab that supply my house is still under review so could be next year before I get it

[mmm]

Originally Posted by Kushan

It's just occurred to me that your actual download and upload speeds (80Mbps and 20Mbps) are the same as your download/upload ratio as a percentage (80%:20%).

I don't know why this amuses me but it does.

Its also the "Pareto principle" numbers!

[roger skillin]

Well i just got the e-mail this morning about the speed upgrades and also an e-mail to say i'm included in the trial, anyone know what the trial is yet?

[Kushan]

IF we knew, we wouldn't be able to post here about it anyway.

[roger skillin]

Originally Posted by Kushan

IF we knew, we wouldn't be able to post here about it anyway.

True, it's been a while since my last trial for SH2 and we had to keep quiet about that

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by roger skillin

Well i just got the e-mail this morning about the speed upgrades and also an e-mail to say i'm included in the trial, anyone know what the trial is yet?

Given you signed up for a broadband hardware trial it seems fair to assume it's a trial of new broadband hardware.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I think I've already gone on record as saying that VM could, if they chose, be at 600Mb by 2016.

If the commercial need is there they can do it without the costs being too extortionate.

BT's G.fast will be distance limited just as other xDSL technologies are, and will need new fibre installs deeper into the Openreach network. It will not be a competitive consideration for VM for a while, just as Openreach FTTP isn't right now, as it only covers about 200,000 properties in the country.

BT has begun trials of its new G.fast broadband technology, which provides ultrafast speeds of over 10 times faster than the current UK average.

Huntingdon in Cambridgeshire is the first town involved in the tests being carried out by Openreach, with residents in the trial able to access speeds of up to 330Mbps...

...The company plans to start deploying G.fast either next year or in 2017, rolling it out alongside FTTC and FTTP, providing that the trials go well. Fingers crossed that’s the case, as this will be a major boon for internet speeds in the UK to say the least.

Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2015/08/2...#ixzz3k9Ulu3BU

[Ignitionnet]

Indeed. They hope to reach the majority of the UK by 2025, and have it available to 'millions', which could be less than 10% of the UK, by 2020.

I'm sure VM, running at 300Mb across nearly 50% of the UK by 2016, will be quaking in their boots at the prospect of BT 'hoping' to offer 'up to' 500Mb to a smaller footprint than theirs by 2025.

By 2025 VM will be in excess of 1Gb, and be delivering that to over 2/3rds of the UK's homes and businesses.

There is no speed competition here, and BT have never had any interest in one and aren't going to start now. BT know there's no point and no money to be made from them pushing fibre deeper into their network in any kind of hurry. They were hoping FTTC would be adequate for at least 12 years.

[alanbjames]

ive had no email about any speed upgrades?

When are they due to start rolling out?