Unstoppable migration? - Page 84

**Hugh** · 11-02-2016, 22:11

The high profile Imam needs to accept that there is a different culture, and it is the one of the country he is resident in, which does not accept the notion of child brides...

Ignitionnet · 11-02-2016, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh

The high profile Imam needs to accept that there is a different culture, and it is the one of the country he is resident in, which does not accept the notion of child brides...

You know as well as I do that to people like this Imam acceptance of different cultures and tolerance to their customs only goes one way.

**Hugh** · 12-02-2016, 00:05

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

You know as well as I do that to people like this Imam acceptance of different cultures and tolerance to their customs only goes one way.

Well, frakk him then, and he should move to a country where his 'culture' is accepted.

I'm not a big fan of moral relativism...

Russ · 12-02-2016, 05:43

And this is just the kind of sporadic example that the extreme right will bring up time and time again when they're low on alternative ammunition.

I don't doubt there are attitudes like this out there (a democracy means all views including those we find offensive and repugnant are permitted to be held) just as we get groups on our streets demanding Sharia Law in the UK, they're clearly the minority (wanting a country to adopt a theological idea is one thing, trying to take action towards it are two very different things) but exactly what Britain First and the like will selectively 'report' on when we need another round of immigrant-bashing.

Osem · 12-02-2016, 08:02

It seems to me that female genital mutilation is an example of a fairly widespread cultural practice which has been, until recently, turned a blind eye to so as not to offend certain communities. I think the west in general has been rather too accommodating of practices which are alien to it and this is one reason why integration hasn't been all that successful IMHO. Perhaps that's a subject for another thread however.

Ramrod · 12-02-2016, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Russ

And this is just the kind of sporadic example that the extreme right will bring up time and time again when they're low on alternative ammunition.

I don't think that, at the moment, they are low on alternative ammunition. Every day brings new reports of muslim shenanigans.....

Osem · 12-02-2016, 10:10

And of course, given the huge numbers, there'll be other groups/nationalities involved in undesirable behaviour of one sort or another. Sometimes this will be a result of nothing more than quite understandable desperation. However, we can't deny that there are those whose intentions are to take advantage of the situation in any way they can and have no intention of obeying our laws, let alone respecting our values and integrating.

Ignitionnet · 12-02-2016, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, frakk him then, and he should move to a country where his 'culture' is accepted.

I'm not a big fan of moral relativism...

Quite, and agreed. Basic decency, centred around respect for others and taught by the golden rule of treating others as you'd have them treat you, is a universal human trait. Any belief system that violates this as brazely as that his culture is based on should be criticised.

Sadly such things are, apparently, racist.

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Originally Posted by Russ

And this is just the kind of sporadic example that the extreme right will bring up time and time again when they're low on alternative ammunition.

I don't doubt there are attitudes like this out there (a democracy means all views including those we find offensive and repugnant are permitted to be held) just as we get groups on our streets demanding Sharia Law in the UK, they're clearly the minority (wanting a country to adopt a theological idea is one thing, trying to take action towards it are two very different things) but exactly what Britain First and the like will selectively 'report' on when we need another round of immigrant-bashing.

You may find this an interesting read.

This is also eye-opening.

techguyone · 12-02-2016, 10:37

Why is it anything that's not left is always regarded as 'extreme right'

heero_yuy · 12-02-2016, 11:32

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VIGILANTES have been filmed patrolling a town after migrants allegedly made rape threats against schoolkids.

It comes days after a mass brawl at a school during which parents claim eastern European students lashed out and threatened pupils.

Police patrols have been stepped up in Crewe, Cheshire, after the incident at Sir William Stanier Community School last Wednesday.

Now video footage has shown groups of around 100 men and youths heading towards a part of town with a large migrant population.

Linky

It was only a matter of time.

Taf · 12-02-2016, 11:35

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Why is it anything that's not left is always regarded as 'extreme right'

It's part of the lefties brainwashing process. Anyone not exactly in line with their thinking is either a NAZI, thug, racist, xenophobe or "islamophobic". Or all of these.

Just look at any demonstration, with or without a counter demonstration, and look at which group always gets short shrift from the police and media.

GrimUpNorth · 12-02-2016, 12:59

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Why is it anything that's not left is always regarded as 'extreme right'

Maybe because the 'right' don't do anything in half measures?

Cheers

Grim

Russ · 12-02-2016, 13:05

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Originally Posted by techguyone

Why is it anything that's not left is always regarded as 'extreme right'

If that was aimed at myself I was referring to the actual 'extreme right'.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

You may find this an interesting read.

This is also eye-opening.

Again, both I have issues with as neither reflect my own experiences living and working around Muslims and other faiths.

I'm not denying what's in print but it's tough for me to get on board if it's something I simply don't recognise.

techguyone · 12-02-2016, 13:37

No just a general observation, not aimed at anyone. I'm quite good at being specific with anyone I have issue with.

Osem · 12-02-2016, 13:42

Don't worry though because back in Eurolalaland the Greeks have been given an ultimatum to sort out their borders:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35559159

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The European Union has given Greece three months to fix its border controls, in a move that could allow other Schengen zone states to maintain internal border controls.

Two weeks ago, a draft report found that Greece had "seriously neglected" its obligations to control the external frontier of the border-free zone.

Some EU states have re-imposed border controls on a temporary basis.

More than 850,000 migrants and refugees arrived in Greece last year.

Or what?

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No just a general observation, not aimed at anyone. I'm quite good at being specific with anyone I have issue with.

Yes, a valid general observation too IMHO.

All sorts of extreme language and insults have been routinely used to brand anyone who dared to express any concerns, however coherent, about this issue. Thankfully, it's been exposed for the nasty, debate stifling, tactic it is and what's unfolding in front of our eyes in Europe serves to illustrate just how right those with concerns about uncontrolled migration were and still are.