[Update] Windows 10 Discussion

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I see the Microsoft will be making Windows 10 free for consumers.

About time they caught up with Apple in offering the OS updates for free.

"About time they caught up"? Microsoft did it before Apple did (admittedly, only by five days), Apple were the ones who had to 'catch up'.

[qasdfdsaq]

You don't have to be that crazy. I installed Windows 8 developer preview on my main PC when it was out, ditched it after a few days mind you but still.

[Stop It]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

You don't have to be that crazy. I installed Windows 8 developer preview on my main PC when it was out, ditched it after a few days mind you but still.

As did I.

Felt stupid for doing so then bought Windows 8 anyway. Stuck with it because I didn't want to be seen as wasting my money, oops. Still, 8.1 with Classic Shell isn't really that bad to be fair.

[qasdfdsaq]

I have 8.1 (well, Server 2012 R2, which is, basically, 8.1) running on a few servers and it's quite nice, but I still detest the stupid start screen (on Windows Server FFS, I mean, come on...).

TBH, other than Millenium I don't think Microsoft has recently released any new versions Windows that were truly worse than the last, but I tend to look at the 'under the hood' kernel and architecture improvements over the user interface, which is why I was a big fan and advocate of Vista when everyone else hated it

[Stephen]

What Windows versions have been free then?

The last 2-3 OS X updates have been free.

[qasdfdsaq]

The latest one Windows version (8.1) has been free.

The 2-3 OSX updates have NOT been free. Only the latest one (10.9). 10.8 and 10.7 were both chargeable upgrades.

[Stephen]

The latest one is actually 10.10 Yosemite and is also free.

While chargeable they were under £20 each. Very minimal compared to the amount MS used to charge for the Windows OS.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The latest one is actually 10.10 Yosemite and is also free.

While chargeable they were under £20 each. Very minimal compared to the amount MS used to charge for the Windows OS.

you got to remember Microsoft makes it money from software sales and Apple makes it money from the expensive hardware sales

[Uncle Peter]

Hmm I don't remember paying for Mavericks.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The latest one is actually 10.10 Yosemite and is also free.

Well yes, excluding Yosemite which just came out, like Windows 10, which just came out... Being very selective today aren't we.

While chargeable they were under £20 each. Very minimal compared to the amount MS used to charge for the Windows OS.

I never paid more than £30 for a Microsoft Windows upgrade, even for the top of the range Ultimate editions. Course the difference in price comes down to the fact Apple gets all the money from selling hardware already, often at highly marked up prices, while Microsoft doesn't see a penny of any hardware sold unless they charge for the software that is on it.

That said if you want to talk like your personal experience is representative, Apple tried to charge us nearly £500 for OSX Lion Server.


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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Hmm I don't remember paying for Mavericks.

Pretty much what I said, barring the new OSs announced this week, only Mavericks has been free.

[Taf]

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Well yes, excluding Yosemite which just came out, like Windows 10, which just came out... Being very selective today aren't we.

I never paid more than £30 for a Microsoft Windows upgrade, even for the top of the range Ultimate editions. Course the difference in price comes down to the fact Apple gets all the money from selling hardware already, often at highly marked up prices, while Microsoft doesn't see a penny of any hardware sold unless they charge for the software that is on it.


Pretty much what I said, barring the new OSs announced this week, only Mavericks has been free.

What was announced this week? Yosemite was announce months ago and released this month. So that is still two main OS X versions released for free and at least 2 others charged at minimal price.

Where as Windows 10 isn't actually released, its in beta and under a public trial and won't officially be released till next year. Who is being selective now.

Microsoft do make money off hardware, they sell tablets and have made money off the Xbox consoles for years. That surely counts as hardware? Also keyboards and mice.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What was announced this week? Yosemite was announce months ago and released this month. So that is still two main OS X versions released for free and at least 2 others charged at minimal price.

You really have to do this every time anyone mentions Apple don't you. OK fine, you're desperately grasping at straws that lend no weight to your argument, but yes, Yosemite was release last week, not this week, exactly seven days ago. Still changes nothing about my original point.

Where as Windows 10 isn't actually released, its in beta and under a public trial and won't officially be released till next week. Who is being selective now.

Wow, nitpicking much? So Apple releases a second update slightly quicker than Microsoft.

Doesn't change the fact Microsoft's first free update came out before Apple's first free update, and just because Apple has released a second update since then while Microsoft is taking a bit longer doesn't change the fact one bit. Pretty lame and desperate attempt to divert attention from the fact that you were wrong.

Microsoft do make money off hardware, they sell tablets and have made money off the Xbox consoles for years. That surely counts as hardware? Also keyboards and mice.

Still trying to divert attention by pointing to unrelated irrelevant issues. Yes, they sell tablets, but Microsoft has never charged for updates on any tablets they've sold, so proves nothing.

Yes, they sell XBoxes, but Xboxes do not run Windows, so not at all relevant, to how much they charge for Windows.

Yes, they sell keyboards and mice. Again keyboards and mice do not run Windows, regardless, Microsoft has never charged for OS updates on keyboards or mice either. But then Apple also sells keyboards and mice, so that's not even a differentiators.

All of these still miss the central point, which is that Apple sells all the hardware that (legally) runs OS X. Microsoft does not sell all of the hardware that runs Windows, the ones they do sell they do not charge for Windows upgrades on. Which actually just reinforces my argument that it's down to how much they make off the hardware.

[Taf]

[Dave42]

Windows 10 is the Most Audacious Release in the History of the Platform

Through evolution, Microsoft sparks a revolution

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/w...story-platform

a good read