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Old 20-02-2013, 13:35   #31
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

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ah gotcha ,it does sound like a full blown trial though
It is at the defence's request that they are going down to this level as they want him released on bail but the prosecution doesn't.

Seems to be holes in evidence on both sides - ballistic evidence could be key as it would show if he had his legs on or not. Having looked at his affadivit & some of the prosecution evidence I can't help thinking something is not quite right about his story - he says he went to the balcony and then heard the news and went back to the bed to pick up his gun - why did he either not see Reeva or make an effort to wake her up to warn her there might be a burglar ?
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

Pistorius detective on attempted murder charges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21528631

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The South African detective leading the Oscar Pistorius inquiry is facing seven charges of attempted murder, police have confirmed.

Detective Hilton Botha, who has faced fierce questioning at Mr Pistorius's bail hearing, was allegedly involved in a shooting two years ago.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

I've got an OJ Simpson feeling
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

yep can only agriee this fiasco waiting to happen. Sad as the family reeva wont get closure for there loved one.

Maybe prejudging bit but hope if he is found not guilty its because the evidance not because bungled investigation.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

He's just been granted bail
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He's just been granted bail
So don`t think he will run then.
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So don`t think he will run then.
Sorry I don't find the death of one and the subsequent trial of another on murder charges the place to crack cheap jokes..
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

How can he really claim self-defence when he shot through a closed door. Any possibility of imminent danger would only have come if the door suddenly opened. He had time to ask who was in there.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

I think we should reserve that sort of judgement, and perhaps leave it to those that live in South Africa and have a better idea of what it feels like to live in a society with the sort of violent crime rate it suffers (Murder rate in the UK, 1.2 per 100,000 of population, South Africa 31.8 per 100,000).
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How can he really claim self-defence when he shot through a closed door. Any possibility of imminent danger would only have come if the door suddenly opened. He had time to ask who was in there.
Like the USA, South Africa has a big gun culture, it also has a high murder rate and death through burglary rate.. You don't ask if the suspected person behind a closed door is friendly and won't shoot you with the possible gun they have pressed against the door.. If he seriously thought that his partner was still in bed then in that circumstance most SA residents would shoot first.

Anyone here ever lived in Jo'burg or Pretoria will know the situation with home invasion and the need to protect your property over there which normally starts with electric fences and razor wire and stops with a weapon beside the bed.

[edit] Remember though that this is just the bail hearing and purely designed to find out if he is a continued danger to himself or others and whether he would abscond before the trial
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How can he really claim self-defence when he shot through a closed door. Any possibility of imminent danger would only have come if the door suddenly opened. He had time to ask who was in there.
The person on the other side of the door could just as easily do the same thing as Pistorius did.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.

Natalie has been watching this very closely and she is surprised he got bail.

As for the neighbourhood where she comes from - yup they often have shootings and she was mugged twice before she moved to the uk.
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The person on the other side of the door could just as easily do the same thing as Pistorius did.
I accept this but why oh why did not check side bed make sure reeva was safe.

To me this no excuse for simple check to see if his partner was safe. You could easily mask deliberate murder of partner with this argument as defence.

How many those stats was accidential wrong call I wonder.

SA gonna learn harsh lesson about its gun problem like USA.
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