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Old Yesterday, 11:23   #1426
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[QUOTE=jonbxx;35896638]Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?[/

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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?
I just asked a leaver friend to say what they liked about the EU:
- Euro, so that they're not left having to spend all their money at the end of the holiday.
- Cleaning up of sewage so that British beaches are clean again.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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I just asked a leaver friend to say what they liked about the EU:
- Euro, so that they're not left having to spend all their money at the end of the holiday.
- Cleaning up of sewage so that British beaches are clean again.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?

For people like myself, who believe firmly in independent Sovereign Nation states, and believe that the people who are really running the EU have a globalist agenda, then there is only one option: Get out whilst we can. If there are any positive aspects, they become irrelevant compared to leaving ASAP.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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For people like myself, who believe firmly in independent Sovereign Nation states, and believe that the people who are really running the EU have a globalist agenda, then there is only one option: Get out whilst we can. If there are any positive aspects, they become irrelevant compared to leaving ASAP.
Come on PB, despite your beliefs you must know some positive EU aspects you'd like to share on the forum?
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Come on PB, despite your beliefs you must know some positive EU aspects you'd like to share on the forum?

Well, I guess I will miss the videos of Nigel Farage letting rip in the EU Parliament


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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

I can't think of good with the EU but I can think of things that are useful but don't need the EU - free movement of people is good but rights of residence isn't. Tax free movement of goods is good but lack of freedom in tax at point of sale is not. EU blocking laws and bringing in some rights is good and EU blocking/enforcing laws and deny some rights is bad.

Overall people and goods should be able to move around the states freely but each state should be sovereign in it's own borders.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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I can't think of good with the EU but I can think of things that are useful but don't need the EU - free movement of people is good but rights of residence isn't. Tax free movement of goods is good but lack of freedom in tax at point of sale is not. EU blocking laws and bringing in some rights is good and EU blocking/enforcing laws and deny some rights is bad.

Overall people and goods should be able to move around the states freely but each state should be sovereign in it's own borders.
You mean the EEC which is what we joined in 1972.
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free movement of people is good.

I assume you mean with security checks at National borders for non nationals?
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

Some common sense of the Icelandic variety:

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Europe should give Britain a trade deal that closely replicates current EU-UK trading relations and not seek to punish the UK after Brexit by erecting trade barriers, the Icelandic foreign minister has told the Telegraph.

Gudlaugur Thór Thórdarson said it was in the interests of both sides to have unfettered trade in Europe “as it was before” Brexit, and that European attempts to punish Britain would rebound badly on the 27 remaining member states.

“There will be no winners if we are going to have trade barriers. I would think that at the end of the day it will be obvious that is it is in everyone’s interests to have free trade in Europe, as it was before,” he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...warns-iceland/

I'm not sure the EU does common sense though does it?...
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Some common sense of the Icelandic variety:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...warns-iceland/

I'm not sure the EU does common sense though does it?...
Iceland loves trading with us. They still haven't paid us back for the 'Icesave' fiasco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icesave_dispute) and they won the 'Cod wars' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars).
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Iceland loves trading with us. They still haven't paid us back for the 'Icesave' fiasco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icesave_dispute) and they won the 'Cod wars' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars).
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On 28 January 2013, the EFTA Court cleared Iceland of all charges, meaning that Iceland was freed from the disputed obligation for deposit guarantees worth €4.0bn (ISK 674bn) plus accrued interest to UK and the Netherlands. This caused shock, as some legal experts had suggested the ESA would win.

The repayment claim still existed as a claim on the Landsbanki receivership, who one year earlier had been ordered by the Supreme Court of Iceland to repay confiscated deposits (including minimum deposit guarantees) as priority claims, totaling ISK 852bn (£4.46bn, €5.03bn) to the UK Financial Services Compensation Scheme and ISK 282bn (€1.67bn) to De Nederlandsche Bank. By January 2016, the Landsbanki receivership had, through liquidation of assets, repaid all the priority claims.
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