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Old 04-03-2017, 01:16   #241
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Khabib vs Ferguson has been cancelled amid illness

Ferguson opted not to take a step in fight, can't blame him, not even a week's notice. Expecting an undercard fight to be moved up in that order.

Alistair Overeem vs. Mark Hunt is a likely shot now for a co-main event or Rashad Evans vs Dan Kelly.
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Khabib vs Ferguson has been cancelled amid illness

Ferguson opted not to take a step in fight, can't blame him, not even a week's notice. Expecting an undercard fight to be moved up in that order.

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That's annoying I had khabib. Gone for Craig, Woodley, Henrique and Overeem never bet on ufc before but I had such a profitable day yesterday at the races I thought what the hell. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bellew win either.
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Bellew has to get through 12 rounds without Haye landing a power shot, I just can't see it happening, other than money I can't fathom a good reason for Bellew to take this fight at all. I don't know what they're anticipating but unless you're sparring with someone like Wilder he's just not prepared for the right hand that's about to smack him. I thought Chisora did well to last 5 rounds with Haye given his limited skill set, but Chisora has a steel chin, he's still never been decked by anyone else bar Haye.
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Bellew has to get through 12 rounds without Haye landing a power shot, I just can't see it happening, other than money I can't fathom a good reason for Bellew to take this fight at all. I don't know what they're anticipating but unless you're sparring with someone like Wilder he's just not prepared for the right hand that's about to smack him. I thought Chisora did well to last 5 rounds with Haye given his limited skill set, but Chisora has a steel chin, he's still never been decked by anyone else bar Haye.
Bellew doesn't seem money oriented but he is smart, we'll find out how smart soon enough
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Always great to see Paulie fighting, such a respectful genuine bloke.

Paulie loses but as per, great post match interview, never heard this guy make an excuse ever.

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Here we go then, the circus is about to begin. A punt on Bellew would net you a bit. Haye's trying to decapitate him and looking sloppy. Bellew is executing a plan.

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It's happening. Ah there's the first, stuns Bellew, he's slowing too, still in the balance but Haye's a one puncher, still not the start I expected. Going quite the opposite at the minute, it's Bellew that's wearing down. Hahahaha, I think he's legs done. Looks like his leg has gone.

Just get him out man, seriously? Are they actually serious? Letting a guy fight with one leg.

This is disgraceful, how is this still going on? That leg isn't just going to magically repair itself. He can barely walk, this is incredible. Bellew can't get him out of there, but this is dangerous.

I've never witnessed anything like it, this is just stupid. His leg gets worse every second he's in there. Even if by some Miracle he finishes this, he's risking never coming back. I'd like to think Bellew is holding it back out of sportsmanship.

It's finally stopped. Just unnecessary that.

No disrespect to Bellew but to now call that an upset is just diabolical. Haye was controlling him until the knee buckled. From then on in it was just an absolute disgrace for him to be allowed to compete. Bellew had great movement though, not sure if he was holding back on Haye after the injury because he really should be finishing that. If Haye's getting injuries, he should call it.

For the laughing part further up I missed the knee buckle and thought Haye had been caught. I'd call him a warrior, but that was nothing short of stupid. They'll sell a rematch of course in which I think an uninjured Haye will take him out. I'd love to give credit to the winner but I'm struggling to call him a winner given it was Haye delivering up until the injury. Scorecards had it Haye 4-1 pre-injury too. People can say this fight delivered but it really didn't. It was an unfortunate turnaround. I struggle to give credit to Bellew but his gameplan was solid, he wasn't winning with it but he avoided massive shots way better than others have. Haye credited Bellew for that himself too, because it was true, Bellew avoided what many people have failed to do.

Thurman vs Garcia next.

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Just seen a replay of the injury happening, it's horrible, it's clear his tendon just snaps. Doesn't even mention it post fight. It'd have been typical for a Haye win by KO, it'd have been massive for Bellew to win over 12, but this is just underwhelming. the last rounds of that fight should be remembered as a boxing disgrace. Everyone's quick to already jump on the Haye is a warrior bandwagon but I just didn't see the need to go on. That's added months to his recovery that. He's lost via towel anyway and once you see the injury replay and his ankle crumble, there's no shame in chucking that towel in right there.

This will go down as Bellew fluked a win over a one legged fighter, and that Haye is done with, he can't stay injury free. For those unaware, he had surgery on his shoulder to repair that, he also suffered an ankle injury just last week and we've seen how that's turned out. Above all else, maybe David Haye will re-consider his awful boxing footwear, which did him absolutely no justice tonight.

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He's financially secure now according to him and fought solely for the dosh, didn't care if he lost. Pretty stunning thing to say post match.

Injury video: https://twitter.com/Taggsy79/status/...948545/video/1

Just checking around the usual places after fights, the support for Haye is surprisingly overwhelming.. given that Klitschko injury cackfest. Bellew seems to still be getting hate and fans demanding a rematch. A lot of Hate for BBC's article though. Haye is set on the rematch I bet, that's why he failed to mention the injury as the reason he lost, he'll sharp start using it when Bellew signs on for fight two though. Not sure if Bellew would go for it though, said it himself he was struggling when Haye did land and his gameplan was to gas Haye out, except it was him running out of Steam whilst Haye stood on one leg. Injured or not though it's gotta go down as a loss. I can't see Haye wanting to take that, but it's whether his body allows him to even step foot in a ring again.

Just read the BBC article people are complaining about, just facepalm, it's the most lopsided analysis of the fight I've seen. Haye gassed? When did this happen? He snapped something but damn he never slowed down, he had more gas in the tank than Bellew did that's for sure and was still swinging for the fences with one leg. What the hell were they watching? Now they've got a double take. ''Bellew beats injured Haye'' ''Bellew stuns Haye with sensational stoppage''

Luke Reddy is the one writing it and naturally fans are making themselves heard by that often stupid comments section underneath
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Updates on the pretty horrid injury: Early signs and I stress early as they could be BS suggest this is odds on a career ending injury, I just wonder if those unnecessary rounds made it that much worse. It's also been confirmed by Haye that he that press release a few days ago that had Haye claiming his camp made up an achilles injury to give Bellew a sense of false confidence was in fact a false flag and that Haye and his camp were very close to calling the right off because the injury did exist and tonight it pretty much exploded.

All round, I'm gutted, There was no knockout, there was no masterclass from Bellew, it was no classic, it was a broken boxer being chased around the ring after round 6. I'm gutted for Haye for obvious reasons and I'm gutted for Bellew because deep down it's not the real victory he wanted from it all either.

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Haye is straight in for surgery.

Thurman vs Garcia incoming, UFC 209 clashing with it.

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Overeem nearly decapitates Hunt with a brutal knee. Some weird tactics on display by Reem that got some negative reactions but he sharp changes that with a finish.

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Thurman stuns Garcia and hands him his first loss. Split decision was wrong I think, Thurman should have had it unanimously. Sweet justice for Thurman given Garcia's father's racist tendencies. Rematch will end up happening of course. Wonder if we'll get the outcome of Brook/Spence vs Thurman now.

Woodley retains in arguably one of the worst fights ever seen in UFC. Both fighters were boo'd throughout and then boo'd off after an awful showing that saw roughly 80 seconds of physicality over 25 minutes.
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That's odd, I heard his manager say the other day that if he wanted money there was plenty of it on offer in Hollywood after his performance in creed.

I knew he'd win and think he'd have worn him down over time regardless of the injury, I was certain of it when Haye came in so heavy. Bellew reminded me of Chris eubank just before the first nigel Benn fight, someone who had a plan, who'd seen something all the experts hadn't and had the brains and skill to pull it off, I won a load of cash that night to!
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I'm not sure he'll get Wilder unless he's the one willing to travel. The comments suggesting the ball's in his court are skewed a bit. I think Wilder would face him and likely blast him (Sloppy but deadly fighter) but he'll want it in the US on his own terms and not in a football stadium on Merseyside. Guy has genuinely nice words about everyone and I don't begrudge him getting paid either, he comes off as a guy that's having to work double to get paid enough.

I think his comments today confirm he pulled back after the injury and rightly so. He asked Haye and his corner to call it a day. Stopping it there and then in the 6th would've been the best thing for everyone.

Still in shock over Thurman beating Garcia, seems 147 is opening up now Floyd's gone.

Woodley vs Thompson at 209 was a disaster though. An absolute flop of a main event. Not sure what could be done in the aftermath but I'd be docking them dollars and refunding the paying attendance a portion of their ticket price after watching both fighters literally try to counter each other for 23 and a half minutes out of 25. So two counter punchers literally refused to throw first and merely circled the Octagon to repeated boo's.

Feeling it today, avoided alcohol to avoid falling asleep but managed to knock back a 12" Pizza and chips, 6 500ml belly rotters (Energy drinks) a few bottles of Lucozade and a few bits in between.

Likely be a gathering event for Joshua vs Klitschko. Excited for GGG vs Jacobs though.

There was also something else in Bellews comments last night that suggested the actual flare up to the Haye fight was rigged and that if he beat Flores he should instigate it by that ringside confrontation. Mentioning Haye had approached him with a list of potential fights he had coming up but asked Tony if he'd like to be on it.

Then again there's not many daft enough to buy into the build up anymore because its mostly false hype to sell a fight.

Onto the money comments he made after the fight, I don't think he meant it as he's just had an amazing pay day, I think by securing his financial future and not caring about winning or losing he meant that the fight has now given him a new platform he never had and hes no longer having to worry about the future. It'll take another fight with Haye to equal that amount but he'll make a load more fighting known Heavyweights than he will fighting Cruiserweights.

Wilder then? Unlikely. Chisora would be an even bout but again they appear to be best mates so unlikely. That leaves Dillian Whyte maybe? It's all British and could be a PPV undercard shortly down the line.

I'll be surprised of Haye can recover. I liked him more as a floater between Cruiser and Heavy. He looked way more dangerous then. He should consider dropping that weight, regaining that speed. It seems he built himself slowly to match Klitschko or Joshua and not give away 4 stones a bout. Still think he'd be far more dangerous to fight the lesser he weighs, guy always has been. Again though, be great to see him recover and possibly come in smaller but there's surely no rematch in the summer as suggested because he's not coming back that quickly if at all.

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Haye won't retire according to a conversation he's just had with Carl Froch, he'll work on the injury and possibly drop back to being a bigger than most cruiserweight, which to be fair is when he was most dangerous.

He'll chase the rematch and there's a high chance of getting that too, Hearn wants Parker or Wilder for Bellew but I can't see either of them fighting in the UK and Bellew stands to make nothing fighting them in the US compared to what Haye and Bellew would both make in the UK on PPV, especially since Bellew will get the bigger purse second time round. This is one of those occasions where I'm not that fussed about the money involved. Bellew's went an entire career making basically buttons compared to the rest, win or lose he's getting paid now and in his own words can secure his and his family's future, so it's admirable.

As for UK Boxing we're onto Joshua vs Klitschko.

This will give us a real indication of what Joshua's actually packing in those hands. If Haye can get to Klitschko which under scrutiny of that fight you'll see he did, I definitely think Joshua has a fair chance of putting him down, Haye was much smaller, had less reach and less chance of setting up any form of jab, Klitschko leaned on him the entire fight and Haye couldn't tee off. Klitschko couldn't lean on Fury and he'll not be leaning on Joshua either. Go in there and fight like Haye would except being a foot taller and stones heavier, Klitschko want's a boring jab fest, not right hooks swinging at him.

If Joshua gets through this on points I'll be happy, I'll be elated if he puts him out though. The only question that will remain is what is going to happen when that chin gets a decent crack, still cacking myself for a repeat of the golden boy Amir Khan. Someone like Wilder is bound to fluke a power shot on him. The longer you go, the worse it's going to be. If he wins though, he holds the cards in baiting Wilder to the UK. It will be the start of the new base of Heavyweight boxing, here in the UK.
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Tyson Fury announced May return date

Nope. Isn't happening, not if you've seen his current shape. It's incredible, there's no way that man makes it into a decent bout without doping. With that said there's a chance he'll literally fight someone from the local pub near you.

I'd like him to actually get into shape and sort something out.

Haye, Bellew, Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Parker, Ortiz. That's the current crop of Heavyweights with the addition of a floating cruiserweight.

I think you go for Haye vs Bellew II. Fury vs Joshua, the winner of Joshua/Fury then attempts to unify via Wilder with Haye/Bellew going after Parker or Ortiz. The winner of Bellew and Haye may have to take a second builder fight against any of the losers before fighting the ultimate winner themselves. If Bellew beat Haye twice, he'd be a proper shoe in for a shot right then but Haye would need two fights. If Haye can't get Bellew he's then got a rank to climb putting even more fights on his list, something he can't deal with at 36 imo.

Haye is determined to be a World Champion again but he'll not get the treatment Fury will get upon returning. He'll have to take the rematch with Bellew then another after that before fighting for possibly unified titles which would be harder. By then, Joshua could have taken the scary shots we're worried about and repeat Haye vs Klitschko.
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Khan vs Pacman cancelled

Money failed to materialize, was expected 31.5 million was on offer in the UAE for the fight but both Khan and Pacman have pulled it after agreeing a split but discovering the pot won't be available in the latter half of 2017. Both expected to pursue different fights now.
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Gennady Golovkin (c) vs Daniel Jacobs (WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO Title unification match)
Roman Gonzalez vs Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (WBC Super Flyweight title)
Carlos Cuadras vs David Carmona (Super Flyweight)
Ryan Martin vs Bryan Cruz (Lightweight)

Live from 1am March 19th UK, Live coverage: Box Nation, BT Sports 2

Have no idea why this is on both sub based channel BoxNation and package channel BT. I expect the ever greedy Frank Warren (Boxnation) is absolutely livid.

Khan vs Pacman will go ahead, awaiting confirmation they've decided to take the December option, venue looks to still be the UAE after it was made clear the money was unavailable till December. Manny I'd expect to be doing this now, prizefighting for the wonga, but Khan really is selling out, a fight a year for big bucks.

Joshua vs Klitschko coming next post.
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A reminder that UFC: London is underway, main card at 9pm @ BT Sports 2.

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Golovkin scrapes a poor decision win over Jacobs. I don't even think he won it to be honest. He looked so disinterested.
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Re: Boxing/MMA

Anthony Joshua (C) Vs. Wladimir Klitschko
Live on Sky Box Office Sat 29th April

Biggest fight of the year is upon us, assuming McGregor vs Mayweather falls in on itself.

Nervous, excited and doubtful. Is it too early for Joshua? Klitschko has a solid chin but Haye worried him numerous times depite being massively smaller, if Joshua does carry real power which this is the test for, he could put Klitschko out here. Klitschko can't bang like he used too, so if Joshua gets put down it's really bad. A drab 12 round feeling out fight would be horrible.

Just got a horrible feeling Wlad's experience could embarrass Joshua if he tries to box him over 12 rounds. Joshua needs to in and unload.
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