Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router? - Page 4

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 12:47

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

you really are a funny man you are

I've told you before, please stop stalking me.

No wonder the Jehovah's banished you.

TheDaddy · 25-04-2007, 12:48

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Originally Posted by TheNorm

That would involve trespass. In this case, the wireless signal is being broadcast outside the boundaries of the property.

If my neighbours apple tree has branches that overhang my garden, are the apples that fall to my side "forbidden fruit"?

I believe they are still the property of your neighbour and if you touch them for any reason other than to return them, you are committing an offence, that said I love the analogy

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 12:51

I believe(although I may be wrong) that hijacking your neighbours bandwidth is perfectly legal in America and other countries.

Not that it helps my argument, but just thought i'd throw it in anyway.

**Maggy** · 25-04-2007, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson

I believe(although I may be wrong) that hijacking your neighbours bandwidth is perfectly legal in America and other countries.

Not that it helps my argument, but just thought i'd throw it in anyway.

You are a real wind up merchant..

Stephen · 25-04-2007, 13:35

Maybe someone should report this guy for stealing someone elses broadband that they are paying for!

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

You are a real wind up merchant..

Is it not true about America?

I did state that I may be wrong.

**Maggy** · 25-04-2007, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson

Is it not true about America?

I did state that I may be wrong.

Let me put it this way. Whether it's lawful or not I'd rather not try it in view of that countries attitude to gun ownership.

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Let me put it this way. Whether it's lawful or not I'd rather not try it in view of that countries attitude to gun ownership.

That's a very good point. I wasn't actually using it to justify myself, but was genuinely curious if anyone knew.

I think that some people on this thread(not meaning you incognitas) need to lighten up and stop taking themselves and everything so seriously.

Stephen · 25-04-2007, 14:08

The point is whether its legal or not in the States.

Its not legal to steal someone elses bandwidth in this country.

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 14:14

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Originally Posted by DarthYoda

The point is whether its legal or not in the States.

Its not legal to steal someone elses bandwidth in this country.

Is it not also illegal to record something off the telly and keep it for longer than a certain amount of time?

You're not exactly going to get SO19 round at your door to charge you with over the limit copies of Coronation Street, are you?

**Chris** · 25-04-2007, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson

Is it not also illegal to record something off the telly and keep it for longer than a certain amount of time?

No. the proposal to limit home recordings to 28 days never made it into law. Private home recording remains a grey area because of this.

In any case, copyright infringement is a civil matter, not criminal. Copyright theft (actually distributing what you have copied) is a criminal matter, and something people can and do get done for.

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Chris T

No. the proposal to limit home recordings to 28 days never made it into law. Private home recording remains a grey area because of this.

In any case, copyright infringement is a civil matter, not criminal. Copyright theft (actually distributing what you have copied) is a criminal matter, and something people can and do get done for.

I'm going to phone my local police station and say that someone is stealing my bandwidth and will they come round and arrest the person responsible.

Then I'll wait for a couple of weeks with the police not showing up before accepting that nothing is going to be done about it.

No one is being raped or murdered and nothing is being physically stolen from anyone.

**Chris** · 25-04-2007, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson

I'm going to phone my local police station and say that someone is stealing my bandwidth and will they come round and arrest the person responsible.

Then I'll wait for a couple of weeks with the police not showing up before accepting that nothing is going to be done about it.

No one is being raped or murdered and nothing is being physically stolen from anyone.

That might say something about the efficiency or effectiveness of your local cop shop but it doesn't prove anything with regards to the law. Others have already posted a specific example of someone being convicted of theft for stealing bandwidth. That's not the first case I've read about either.

It is against the law whether you like it or not.

Stephen · 25-04-2007, 14:31

They would possibly look into it as some people have recently been done for the same thing.

Action Jackson · 25-04-2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Chris T

That might say something about the efficiency or effectiveness of your local cop shop but it doesn't prove anything with regards to the law. Others have already posted a specific example of someone being convicted of theft for stealing bandwidth. That's not the first case I've read about either.

It is against the law whether you like it or not.

Yes, but these examples are slightly misleading. One was suspiciously parked outside a house using a laptop and was deliberately out looking for routers to hijack, probably to download illegal material as a lot of these 'war drivers' do. Who knows what the others were up to.

Me sitting in my house and jumping onto my neighbours router to have a look at the footie scores is not exactly in the same league, is it?

Isn't it technically illegal for someone to hang a mattress out of a window? Don't hear of many arrests for that crime.