Football Season 2012/2013 - Page 154

**Damien** · 27-11-2012, 14:43

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Originally Posted by denphone

You also need a club which has a vision and ambition going forward and apart from the new stadium they have shown that not to be the case on the playing as we have seen with many of their star players leaving in the last few years whilst bringing in replacements which are not of the calibre which they had before apart from the Santi Cazorla signing.

Well it sort of defeats my argument if you exclude the examples that show they are 'moving forward'. Building a new stadium isn't easy and few of the big clubs have managed to do, Spurs are slightly on their way now after 10 years, Liverpool and Chelsea are still stuck. It's not as simple as having ambition or not having ambition.

Liverpool have ambition but doesn't mean they can go out and sign Falcao. There is ambition and then what is realistically achievable.

thenry · 27-11-2012, 14:45

its about having a vision to compete on the pitch and getting the best out of the players at hand. we are moving forward yet we could be moving forward a lot faster if the manager pulled his finger out. 'go play' well done.

Dave42 · 27-11-2012, 21:47

yet another absolutely disgraceful display by sunderland 4th bottom all can hope for

**Damien** · 27-11-2012, 21:55

O'Neill is quite the overrated manager.

MalteseFalcon · 27-11-2012, 23:39

Could be worse, you could have Rafa Benitez. Why the Hell did Roman go for him, when he knows full well the Chelsea fans remember what he said about managing Chelsea?

thenry · 28-11-2012, 00:56

Torres was a Roman buy. Rafa and Torres have some form of decent relations.

denphone · 28-11-2012, 05:36

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Originally Posted by Dave42

yet another absolutely disgraceful display by sunderland 4th bottom all can hope for

The trouble is Dave apart from Fletcher no one else seems to score much.

adzii_nufc · 28-11-2012, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Damien

O'Neill is quite the overrated manager.

Thank you!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20523405

Not a fan of the above, Makes me feel if we'd qualify every season the champions league would be less prestigious.

Hard for me to explain since I would love nothing more than to watch my team compete at that level again but I just don't think it would feel the same being able to finish lower than fourth. Part of my Europa league experience was the joy of having to fight all season for that spot and earn it. Fighting for the champions league spot was also a great experience for us last year.

thenry · 28-11-2012, 14:36

I don't like the idea.

denphone · 28-11-2012, 15:00

Another pathetic idea by those bigwigs in Uefa.

TheDaddy · 28-11-2012, 16:09

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Originally Posted by denphone

Another pathetic idea by those bigwigs in Uefa.

More likely it's clubs pushing for it...

thenry · 28-11-2012, 19:02

here we go again, packed midfield...

Arsenal XI starting at Goodison: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Wilshere, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Walcott, Giroud.
Subs: Mannone, Jenkinson, Gibbs, Coquelin, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho.

denphone · 28-11-2012, 19:04

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Originally Posted by thenry

here we go again, packed midfield...

Arsenal XI starting at Goodison: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Wilshere, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Walcott, Giroud.
Subs: Mannone, Jenkinson, Gibbs, Coquelin, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gervinho.

Expect this will be a very tough game for you tonight thenry but mind you ours is a pretty tough fixture too.

**Damien** · 28-11-2012, 19:06

That's pretty much our strongest team. Walcott will act as a 2nd striker I think.

Julian · 28-11-2012, 19:26

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Originally Posted by denphone

Expect this will be a very tough game for you tonight thenry but mind you ours is a pretty tough fixture too.

And an even tougher one for you on Saturday.