Unstoppable migration?

Originally Posted by Mr K

A pledge they have twice made and failed on before !

A pledge to make sure we have a the skills and workforce necessary in future me might be more useful, whether they are immigrants or not.

But as usual, you fail to include where all these extra immigrants are to be housed. Typical.

[Osem]

A driver was killed when a van crashed into lorries that had been forced to stop on a motorway near Calais by a makeshift barrier set up by migrants.
The van, registered in Poland, burst into flames. The driver's identity is not yet known.
Nine Eritreans were found in one of the lorries and taken into police custody.
In 2016, the so-called Jungle migrant camp at Calais was closed, but hundreds of people have returned to the area in the hope of reaching the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40338987

I'm only surprised this hasn't happened many times before. You have to wonder how it is that in a developed country like France roads like this can be blocked by illegals seemingly at will.

Having spoken to some of the truckers at a local firm that does continental delivery they avoid calais as much as possible as this is one of many problems drivers get beat up and trucks and trailers damaged and apart from when the media cameras are rolling the french do as little as possible. Personally if the french police cannot keep the highways open deploy the military allowing a major trade artery to be this affected is ridiculous.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Having spoken to some of the truckers at a local firm that does continental delivery they avoid calais as much as possible as this is one of many problems drivers get beat up and trucks and trailers damaged and apart from when the media cameras are rolling the french do as little as possible. Personally if the french police cannot keep the highways open deploy the military allowing a major trade artery to be this affected is ridiculous.

I find the whole jungle thing bizarre but the French don't seem to have the will to deal with it once and for all. Maybe they quite like having a stick to beat the UK with...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

But as usual, you fail to include where all these extra immigrants are to be housed. Typical.

Insufficient housing is being built in the UK because we are 50,000 construction workers short. If only attacks on Mr K would conjure up these much-needed construction workers!

[1andrew1]

Righties won't like the news that Theresa May has canned immigration targets.

Theresa May's pledge to slash immigration below 100,000 was left out of a stripped-down Queen’s Speech that laid bare her loss of authority today.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3569921.html

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Righties won't like the news that Theresa May has canned immigration targets.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3569921.html

Brexit has not yet occurred yet. Give it time and don't get your open door hopes up. Btw not just a Righties view that people expect controlled borders.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Brexit has not yet occurred yet. Give it time and don't get your open door hopes up. Btw not just a Righties view that people expect controlled borders.

I believe both Jeremy Corbyn and Righties want strong immigration controls. Everyone expects controlled borders though, that's a different point.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Insufficient housing is being built in the UK because we are 50,000 construction workers short. If only attacks on Mr K would conjure up these much-needed construction workers!

I think there is more issues with available land, but shortage of housing is down to increased population and increases in immigration, to the tune of hundreds of thousands, which we cannot afford to keep ignoring, unless you're feeling more welcoming and letting some move in with you.

Also. No one is attacking Mr K, he is being challenged on his somewhat frequent inaccurate views, so enough of that inaccurate accusation.

As for shortage of construction workers, here is an idea, let's stop exploiting cheap foreign labourers that have priced skilled British workers out of a job!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I think there is more issues with available land, but shortage of housing is down to increased population and increases in immigration, to the tune of hundreds of thousands, which we cannot afford to keep ignoring, unless you're feeling more welcoming and letting some move in with you.

Also. No one is attacking Mr K, he is being challenged on his somewhat frequent inaccurate views, so enough of that inaccurate accusation.

As for shortage of construction workers, here is an idea, let's stop exploiting cheap foreign labourers that have priced skilled British workers out of a job!

What was inaccurate about what Mr K said? Nothing.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

What was inaccurate about what Mr K said? Nothing.

I beg to differ. How long you got ?

[Osem]

Some people can't seem to grasp that what's wanted is CONTROL, that's all.

If we need construction workers (or anyone else for that matter) we invite them to come, if we don't we don't. It's really not rocket science. Better still we actually get on with training our own people to do the jobs we need them to do.

Originally Posted by Osem

Some people can't seem to grasp that what's wanted is CONTROL, that's all.

If we need construction workers (or anyone else for that matter) we invite them to come, if we don't we don't. It's really not rocket science.

Exactly what I have being saying from day one Osem, but it would seem Andrew and his few buddies, want to call us out for wanting restricted access. Pffft, whatever.

Yes, too right! I want restricted access to riff raff elements from other EU States. I am sick of seeing reports about people around here being mugged by Romanian nationals.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

Exactly what I have being saying from day one Osem, but it would seem Andrew and his few buddies, want to call us out for wanting restricted access. Pffft, whatever.

Yes, too right! I want restricted access to riff raff elements from other EU States. I am sick of seeing reports about people around here being mugged by Romanian nationals.

They can't/won't accept it because doing so deprives them of the ability to claim, with any degree of credibility, that those who voted for Brexit are all racists and xenophobes. It's the same tired old narrative they've always employed.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I beg to differ. How long you got ?

Enough.

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Originally Posted by Osem

They can't/won't accept it because doing so deprives them of the ability to claim, with any degree of credibility, that those who voted for Brexit are all racists and xenophobes. It's the same tired old narrative they've always employed.

That's your strawman narrative, no on else's.

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Originally Posted by Mick

I am sick of seeing reports about people around here being mugged by Romanian nationals.

They can and should be deported if they break the law.