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It has long been accepted that millions of people "witnessed" the lunar landing in 1969.
Now, according to you. They didn't.
Screw you, I did!
and what about the Olympics most watch it on TV we cant all get to the venue perhaps it should be scrapped due to a dwindling audience
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As usual these two only cherry pick what they want out of what was said.
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Haven't cherry picked anything .If you read the news and watch Spicer on the reports you will see that nothing has been "cherry picked".There is clear evidence to show that what Spicer and Trump said was complete rubbish.Spicer even tried to use the sale of subway tickets to show that attendance was higher this was quickly refuted by the transit authority
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I've said that the global TV audiences could be high but these since when have "witnesses" been people sitting at home watching something on TV?
As I and others have explained before, Washington is 96% Democrat and the surrounding areas are Democrat strongholds as well. Therefore, it's not surprising that Trump would get fewer numbers along and it's nothing to be defensive about. If the ceremony was held in Texas then doubtless the Democrats would have fewer attendees than the Republicans. Hopefully they wouldn't do a Trump and pretend otherwise.
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I think we should get used to the idea that anything showing Trump in a bad light will be "media lies"
Does it really matter how many watched/were there? The fact that 'Team Trump' have thrown such a childish wobbly over such a minor piffling matter doesn't bode well for the future and bigger issues.
Firstly you have understand that it's Madonna and she has made a career out of being controversial and secondly she was warming up the crowd for a stage show for the comedian Amy Schumer .Yes it was distasteful but she is allowed to do it because it's her choice unlike the women that Trump groped without their consent
Wrong - nobody in the limelight like Madonna is or should be allowed to make lewd remarks like that and in public and then stand on such a platform and demand respect for women, how can anyone ask to respect such a disgusting old woman with a dirty mouth, I cannot and will not? I am not excusing what Trump said about women, in private, on a video 12 years ago, but noone can say one person is allowed to do it and another is not.
I missed it also where later on she made remarks about thinking of blowing up the White House....
So she is thinking or thought a lot about, that she wants to harm/kill the President. I think the FBI should be paying that old cow a visit soon for potentially inciting a Terrorist act on American soil.
She is a disgrace for a human being and should never have been allowed to represent those women and then say what she said about blowing up the White House, she stood with those women, who want more respect and with her dirty/stupid mouth, I cannot respect her whatsoever and I cannot respect those women now who gave her a platform to speak on.
Does it really matter how many watched/were there? The fact that 'Team Trump' have thrown such a childish wobbly over such a minor piffling matter doesn't bode well for the future and bigger issues.
No it doesn't ,what matters is that Trump and his staff are prepared to lie about stuff and call anybody exposing such lies as liars
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Wrong - nobody in the limelight like Madonna is or should be allowed to make lewd remarks like that and in public and then stand on such a platform and demand respect for women, how can anyone ask to respect such a disgusting old woman with a dirty mouth, I cannot and will not? I am not excusing what Trump said about women, in private, on a video 12 years ago, but noone can say one person is allowed to do it and another is not.
I missed it also where later on she made remarks about thinking of blowing up the White House....
So she is thinking or thought a lot about, that she wants to harm/kill the President. I think the FBI should be paying that old cow a visit soon for potentially inciting a Terrorist act on American soil.
She is a disgrace for a human being and should never have been allowed to represent those women and then say what she said about blowing up the White House, she stood with those women, who want more respect and with her dirty/stupid mouth, I cannot respect her whatsoever and I cannot respect those women now who gave her a platform to speak on.
What do you mean "wrong" she is allowed to say what she likes .Just because you don't agree with her doesn't make the platform she is supporting any less valid ,i don't particularly like the comments she made but it doesn't mean she's not allowed to support women's rights
What do you mean "wrong" she is allowed to say what she likes .Just because you don't agree with her doesn't make the platform she is supporting any less valid ,i don't particularly like the comments she made but it doesn't mean she's not allowed to support women's rights
Wrong again, it makes the platform she stands on, very invalid.
You are cherry picking again martyh, it's ok for aging old Madonna to have a dirty mouth, talking of performing sexual acts to buy votes and then stand on a platform to demand respect for women, I do not think so, infact, I know so, as it's had the opposite effect on me, I cannot and will not respect those hypocrites for women.
No it doesn't ,what matters is that Trump and his staff are prepared to lie about stuff and call anybody exposing such lies as liars
I think it's silly and it shows that it's got to him. He could have just said that Obama's Inauguration was unique amongst Inaugurations given it's historical significance and that he was looking forward to getting on with the job and made no further comment. Instead he tweets about it and sends his press officer to attempt to refute it. Are we really meant to believe that Trump is so popular that he has the record for attendance at an inauguration?
As you said though this will be his, and his supporters, tactic for the next four years at least. Every negative story will be fake news. He has listed pretty much every news organisation as fake news, from Fox to CNN, The New York Times to the Washington Post. The only source of true news, conveniently, is the White House Press Office, Donald Trump himself and anonymous Twitter accounts.
The aim, aside of mollifying dissent amongst his base, is to muddy the waters enough so that people can't tell what's true anymore and either withdraw from the political debate entirely or fall into the fallacy of false compromise whereby they assume both sides are partially right. So many Trump doesn't have the BEST! attendance at an inauguration but it must still have been very, very high etc etc.
It is not appropriate to call any woman: "a disgusting old woman", an "old cow" and "a disgrace for a human being" ...
what happened to free speech
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I retract what l said about 'shoot him' but l think he is a moron. And he will divide America so much that there will severe problems. Just look at the demos all over the world. The White House has dismissed it. And blaming the media for all the trouble
Not often l agree with you but free speech is a bedrock of any democracy IMO.
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