Online Safety Bill

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Sounds like Dr. Ranj needs to pipe down then

He is accessible on social media if you wish to politely let him know your views.

This mornings Thought For The Day was by Brian Draper who is an Associate Lecturer of the London Institute of Contemporary Christianity.

Mr Draper believes that it's sad that it's taken the death of a child to spark the debate about whether children should have non child smartphones.

Over half of 13 year old reported seeing hard-core msyoginistic material on social media and the earlier a child gets a phone, the higher the chances of them suffering from depression & anxiety. Their childhood ends the minute they get a smartphone because it distracts them from drawing, reading and playing.

He found himself apologising to his son and explaining that he just didn't know how addictive the technology would be when he first got one. His son responded that his generation needed a year away in the mountains to detox and learn how to live again.

He went on to say that this where the spiritual question kicks in because it's not just about damage limitation. The onus is on adults to lead a way back to life ourselves by limiting our own digital overconsumption now that we know the effects and learning to live well within & without our technology.

Lent starts next week when Christians recall Jesus going into the desert for 40 days to a place beyond distraction to work out what life in it's fullness really meant.

He has started small by banishing phones in his bedroom. As a Christian his source is God, but whatever one believes in, it's worth asking what is the source of my life, love, energy, joy if it's not a phone? What gets me up in the morning? What was I made for?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Lent starts next week when Christians recall Jesus going into the desert for 40 days to a place beyond distraction to work out what life in it's fullness really meant.

He has started small by banishing phones in his bedroom. As a Christian his source is God, but whatever one believes in, it's worth asking what is the source of my life, love, energy, joy if it's not a phone? What gets me up in the morning? What was I made for?

Jesus had a smart phone? Are you reading an electronic version of the Bible?

[pip08456]

What the f**k has god to do with it?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by pip08456

What the f**k has god to do with it?

Nothing, just another excuse to further an agenda.

[peanut]

To be fair I'm sure most 13 year olds will do their own searching for porn and not 'accidently coming across on it' on social media. Also I'm sure that's not the reason for their anxiety and depression either.

Do I think kids should have mobile phones? To me that's a stupid question. I think they should have them but I also think they should be banned in schools. Then it's on the parents more so, and that's not a bad thing. Other than that, there's nothing else you can do or stop.

Education is everything and not banning everything because a minority of weak minded Gen Z/A's / weirdos that are upset or offended over the slightest thing because it's trendy or whatever.

Question how it's got to this point. That there are people are just soo pathetic these days that just can't seem to cope with anything... Where did it go wrong?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

And how would they do that as they have failed miserably for years and i don't see any technical system that cannot be circumnavigated. If you ask me as a very well informed person as far as telecoms is involved this is all just pie in the sky to make it look like they are doing something to placate those who have nothing better to do than get offended because others are not offended and they think they should be. I can assure you that the more they block and ban stuff the more the clever people will get around it.

I will give you an example. They bring in ULEZ zones so the first thing you see is a massive increase in number plate cloning. Ask any traffic copper how bad it has become.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...owing-problem/

Again my point put a ban or cost to something and someone will always find a way around it.

I think that a parent whose child has been murdered will be infinitely more than 'offended'.

---------- Post added at 12:40 ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 ----------

Originally Posted by Sirius

Nothing, just another excuse to further an agenda.

I'll ask again. What is this 'agenda' that you repeatedly refer to?

Originally Posted by pip08456

What the f**k has god to do with it?

It's all in the post as to why Brian Draper felt it appropriate to involve God and why it's also pertinent to those who don't believe in God.

I also think it's inappropriate to use a thinly veiled expletive in the same sentence as God too. Note the correct capitalisation as well.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It's all in the post as to why Brian Draper felt it appropriate to involve God and why it's also pertinent to those who don't believe in God.

I also think it's inappropriate to use a thinly veiled expletive in the same sentence as God too. Note the correct capitalisation as well.

I'm happy to correct capitalisation, Please do not use asterisks to circumvent the swear filter - offending word removed god.
Happy now?

Most schools (at least around here) already ban the use of mobile phones in the school, and have for a few years.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Most schools (at least around here) already ban the use of mobile phones in the school, and have for a few years.

Yes, this has been mentioned in a lot of the discussions about this. It seems that the bereaved mother wants a more uniform approach rather than an ad hoc approach as it's currently down to the discretion of each school.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Yes, this has been mentioned in a lot of the discussions about this. It seems that the bereaved mother wants a more uniform approach rather than an ad hoc approach as it's currently down to the discretion of each school.

You can’t ban kids from having mobile phones.

Would you ban kids from having tablets?

Would you ban kids from having a PC?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You can’t ban kids from having mobile phones.

Would you ban kids from having tablets?

Would you ban kids from having a PC?

OMG you have just added fuel to the fire

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You can’t ban kids from having mobile phones.

Would you ban kids from having tablets?

Would you ban kids from having a PC?

Of course you can. If her campaign is successful in persuading our elected representatives that a ban is appropriate then they will pass a law banning U16's from having an adult mobile smartphone.

The only phones they will be able to have will be a child smartphone or a basic phone and probably not at school.

You're in fantasy land now, never going to happen.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Of course you can. If her campaign is successful in persuading our elected representatives that a ban is appropriate then they will pass a law banning U16's from having an adult mobile smartphone.

The only phones they will be able to have will be a child smartphone or a basic phone and probably not at school.

Completely unenforceable!

[mrmistoffelees]

Richard, the technology already exists here’s just one example

https://parentshield.co.uk

This can be device or SIM only