Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by denphone

Good grief the Telegraph is becoming as bad as the Daily Fail with its cataclysmic headlines.

Isn't it just?!

[Osem]

What gets me is the incessant media coverage of what amounts to a whole load of ifs, buts, whys and wherefores. Discussion after discussion of rumours and scare stories with virtually nothing to either back it up or balance it out. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard commentators banging on about the wholesale deportation of EU citizens after Brexit when anyone in their right mind knows it's never going to happen. Nice work if you can get it eh - broadcast a load of scaremongering and then search out and cite all those who've been sucked in to the fear you've created as examples of how scared people are...

What amazes me is that there are some folks out there who still deny which side 'project fear' is emanating from. I'd wager 90% of Brexit coverage is fear based from those who wanted to remain.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Isn't it just?!

That is why l stopped buying newspapers 15 years ago RR as its best to form your own rational opinions about a good many issues and subjects..

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

That is why l stopped buying newspapers 15 years ago RR as its best to form your own rational opinions about a good many issues and subjects..

its not cos your tight fisted then

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

its not cos your tight fisted then

Not in my mentality papa but l have heard you like to put that cheapo paint on your boat..

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I did

Originally Posted by papa smurf

got a time machine have you -how could you know what was coming and what it would turn out like ?

I reckon Andrew must be a Bilderberger; they've been planning this right from the get-go. It was no shock to our politicians who are Bilderberg attendees, that this was the goal

David Rockefeller's 1991 Bilderberg
Quote


"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years." He went on to explain: "It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller, Speaking at the June, 1991 Bilderberger meeting in Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton and by Dan Quayle

http://www.rense.com/general17/quote.htm (many sources quote this)

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no one voted for what the EU turned into .do you not see the problem with this[COLOR="Silver"]

Yes they did ,the basis of the out campaign was that Britain would merge with the rest of Europe becoming little more than a province

The 'in' campaign agreed with this assessment and used in the their campaign and then knowing this the public voted 67% to remain (knowing full well it would mean more intergration

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Ianch the 1975 vote was purely for a trading bloc and if the political union that we ended up with had been on the vote we wouldn't have voted for it back then, it's the number 1 thing i constantly heard from people who voted in 75 including a few who voted to join the EEC.

The vote wasn't purely for a trading bloc at all that is completely wrong ,the referendum was won on the basis that staying in would mean more integration


http://blogs.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/archi...dum-on-europe/

[Osem]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I reckon Andrew must be a Bilderberger; they've been planning this right from the get-go. It was no shock to our politicians who are Bilderberg attendees, that this was the goal



http://www.rense.com/general17/quote.htm (many sources quote this)

What you mean the world's global elite trying, by hook or by crook, to stitch things up to suit themselves and protect their privileged status in life? Totally preposterous! Our selfless leaders would never never do such a thing en masse would they. It's not as though there have been numerous examples of crooked politicians/leaders around the globe whose main duty in life has been getting richer as their people got poorer. No, there is no great plan to subjugate the masses - I reckon these people can't wait for a revolution to deprive them of all the trappings of success they've devoted so much time and effort to acquiring...

If there was a global conspiracy to rig everything in order to achieve the New World Order then how did Brexit and Trump even come to pass? They've been concocting their plans for 50 years and they can't even rig a referendum or election and not only that but several powerful men worked against them such as Murdoch.

How does one even count as one of the powerful leaders stitching things up or not? Presumably Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Cameron does but Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Jonhson doesn't? Or did Johnson rebel against the NWO? Murdoch, one of the more powerful media tycoons in the world, also wasn't one of these elites? (Obviously though The Guardian was).

It's lunacy. It's 'elites' fighting other 'elites'. Same with America. Donald Trump sits atop one of the most exclusive buildings in New York literally surrounded by gold. He owns exclusive golf courses which cater to the elite, $200,000 a year memberships, and he isn't a member of the elite either.

Elite only seems to mean 'people whose political objectives I disagree with'.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I reckon Andrew must be a Bilderberger; they've been planning this right from the get-go. It was no shock to our politicians who are Bilderberg attendees, that this was the goal



http://www.rense.com/general17/quote.htm (many sources quote this)

Help me out here, is this an insult or a complement?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

If there was a global conspiracy to rig everything in order to achieve the New World Order then how did Brexit and Trump even come to pass?

Pure luck. It's put a minor speedbump in their path.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Isn't it just?!

I quite like the Torygraph .. I mean the Telegraph. It seems to have a certain amount of decency and when required will be honest and report the facts as they are.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Pure luck. It's put a minor speedbump in their path.

And how do you distinguish between them? Or is it just people you disagree with 'libtards' as you call them.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

If there was a global conspiracy to rig everything in order to achieve the New World Order then how did Brexit and Trump even come to pass? They've been concocting their plans for 50 years and they can't even rig a referendum or election and not only that but several powerful men worked against them such as Murdoch.

How does one even count as one of the powerful leaders stitching things up or not? Presumably Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Cameron does but Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Jonhson doesn't? Or did Johnson rebel against the NWO? Murdoch, one of the more powerful media tycoons in the world, also wasn't one of these elites? (Obviously though The Guardian was).

It's lunacy. It's 'elites' fighting other 'elites'. Same with America. Donald Trump sits atop one of the most exclusive buildings in New York literally surrounded by gold. He owns exclusive golf courses which cater to the elite, $200,000 a year memberships, and he isn't a member of the elite either.

Elite only seems to mean 'people whose political objectives I disagree with'.

As I've stated before, there doesn't need to be a co-ordinated, timetabled plan to do this, just a common long term goal. It's really quite simple and logical for the rich and powerful to want to look after each other just as they try to do with tax law for example. We see it on a smaller scale throughout the world of business and politics so why not on a wider scale? Yes there will be hiccups and setbacks along the way but anyone who seriously thinks the global elite are going to just relinquish their wealth when their world is up for grabs, as it inevitably will, is IMHO naive. Anyway back to Brexit When the UK descends into widespread social/economic disorder as a result of leaving the EU as some here predict, these powerful people will, using their wealth and influence, ensure they and their ilk were insulated/protected from it will they not? It's how things used to be in the dark distant (and not so distant) past and I don't think human nature has changed. Their politics aside, the global elite have a common interest - retaining the status they believe is their entitlement.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

If there was a global conspiracy to rig everything in order to achieve the New World Order then how did Brexit and Trump even come to pass? They've been concocting their plans for 50 years and they can't even rig a referendum or election and not only that but several powerful men worked against them such as Murdoch.

How does one even count as one of the powerful leaders stitching things up or not? Presumably Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Cameron does but Oxford educated, Bullingdon Club attending, Jonhson doesn't? Or did Johnson rebel against the NWO? Murdoch, one of the more powerful media tycoons in the world, also wasn't one of these elites? (Obviously though The Guardian was).

It's lunacy. It's 'elites' fighting other 'elites'. Same with America. Donald Trump sits atop one of the most exclusive buildings in New York literally surrounded by gold. He owns exclusive golf courses which cater to the elite, $200,000 a year memberships, and he isn't a member of the elite either.

Elite only seems to mean 'people whose political objectives I disagree with'.

Brexit and Trump, who share an unshakeable belief in the single Sovereign state, are a (temporary) stand against World government. Why do you think both are under so much irrational attack? The globalists dropped the ball on this one; they were caught unawares. Arrogance maybe?


Globalists out there don't need to worry; it will come in the future.