Saddam Hussein Executed

[Ramrod]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but this was a letter printed in todays Telegraph newspaper:

Sir – Saddam Hussein has been sentenced to death (news, November 6). The response of Margaret Beckett, the Foreign Secretary: "It is right that those accused of such crimes against the Iraqi people should face Iraqi justice."

Isn't it ironic that, if Saddam were to escape from prison and make it to the shores of Britain, it would not be possible to deport him back to Iraq to face his sentence, because the death penalty would infringe his human rights?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but this was a letter printed in todays Telegraph newspaper:

It just goes to show the ineptitde of Beckett as Foreign Secretary. She should just learn to heep her gob shut.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

It just goes to show the ineptitde of Beckett as Foreign Secretary. She should just learn to heep her gob shut.

Should Saddam not have faced Iraqi justice?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Should Saddam not have faced Iraqi justice?

I'm highlighting the fact that the Foreign Secretary seems oblivious to Order 17.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I'm highlighting the fact that the Foreign Secretary seems oblivious to Order 17.

Coalition forces, diplomatic personnel and contractors working for Coalition Forces or for diplomats shall be immune from the Iraqi legal process?

Surely you're not suggesting that Saddam was working as a contractor for the coalition forces when he was found in that hole? Now that would have been an interesting connundrum!

Or do you mean another order 17?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Coalition forces, diplomatic personnel and contractors working for Coalition Forces or for diplomats shall be immune from the Iraqi legal process?

Surely you're not suggesting that Saddam was working as a contractor for the coalition forces when he was found in that hole?

I heard he was digging for more oil to appease George Bush.

I'm stating that in her infinite wisdom she has further undermined the morale of troops out there and, once again, has shown herself to be inept in the extreme.


No I mean that Order 17 - good cut and paste job!

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I heard he was digging for more oil to appease George Bush.

I'm stating that in her infinite wisdom she has further undermined the morale of troops out there and, once again, has shown herself to be inept in the extreme.

How?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

How?

How what?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

How what?

How has she by saying that those who have committed such crimes against the Iraqi people (as Saddam and his cronies have) should be tried by Iraqi justice?
How does that undermine the morale of troops over there?

[Mr Angry]

Figure it out.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Figure it out.

I'm having trouble doing that, hence why I'm asking you. So far you've suggested that her statement that its right that Saddam should face Iraqi justice will demoralise our troops, yet not said anything to back it up.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I'm having trouble doing that, hence why I'm asking you. So far you've suggested that her statement that its right that Saddam should face Iraqi justice will demoralise our troops, yet not said anything to back it up.

What she said was ""It is right that those accused of such crimes against the Iraqi people should face Iraqi justice." There are currenly coalition members facing trial for such crimes (murder) against the Iraqi population in the relative comfort of their own national courts. If what Ms Beckett was saying had an ounce of truth about it then you can rest assured that those coalition forces who have witnessed the harder edge of Iraqi justice first hand would think twice the next time they pick up a weapon about what, if any, immunity they might be afforded in the event that they are accused of such crimes.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

What she said was ""It is right that those accused of such crimes against the Iraqi people should face Iraqi justice." There are currenly coalition members facing trial for such crimes (murder) against the Iraqi population in the relative comfort of their own national courts. If what Ms Beckett was saying had an ounce of truth about it then you can rest assured that those coalition forces who have witnessed the harder edge of Iraqi justice first hand would think twice the next time they pick up a weapon about what, if any, immunity they might be afforded in the event that they are accused of such crimes.

Wow, I did not know that any coalition forces (who are covered by order 17 as I quoted above and so immune to Iraqi justice) were being accused of ethnic cleansing, gassing kurds, invading Kuwait, crushing kurdish and shia rebellions, massacring the Barzani tribe, or even killing religious leaders, but hey, if you think troops have committed the same crimes as what Saddam and his cronies have been charged with, that's up to you.
Or are you suggesting that Margret Beckett (MP for incompetance) believes that our troops have committed the same crimes as Saddam and his cronies?

[hatedbythemail]

given the straight kinda guy has said he wouldnt hang saddam and the irritation apparently shown by him when presed on this subject, could it be becket has made a faix pas?

im not surehow you reconcile opposition the death penalty with a belief in it being right that he is executed according to iraqi justice. rock, meet hard place ;-)

I think its simple. You are against the death penality but are glad Iraq has had its own justice.