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Old 14-04-2017, 20:01   #1
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Children’s clothing shop Cheeky Kids in Great Yarmouth to offer discount to claimants

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This shop deserves a lot of praise. Offering a discount to shoppers on this cruel benefit system.
I know people on this benefit. And the Tories should be ashamed of themselves.

Jeremy Corbyn needs a kick up the butt, for not tackling this cruel benefit for the unemployed.

Corbyn, should be targeting Miss May in the Question Time about this benefit
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

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3.16 In the long term, we think that there is a good case for moving away from a separate
Housing Benefit system just as we are attracted to the idea of a single working age
benefit.
This might eventually mean more integration with other parts of the benefits
system, which would simplify both the rules and administration. This could break down
barriers to work by simplifying the structure of benefit withdrawal rates once in work
together with less severe deduction rates across benefits. It could also allow more
effective, and efficient, integration of the services provided to customers
And the date on this DWP report? Before May 2010, under Labour.
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

Putting many Benefits into one single payment to save admin (and manpower) costs seems like a good idea. But when you are put onto UC you actually receive less money in many cases.

And there's the wait:

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If you make a new claim for Universal Credit you will not be paid for the first seven days. These days are known as waiting days.

Don’t let this stop you making your claim and apply as soon as you are entitled to do so as it can take up to six weeks after you claim for your first payment to reach your account.

The seventh day after you make your claim is the date of the month on which your Universal Credit Payment will be paid each month. This is called your assessment date.

Universal Credit is paid monthly in arrears so you’ll have to wait one calendar month from your assessment date before your first UC payment is made. This is called your assessment period.

You then have to wait up to seven days for the payment to reach your bank account.

This means it can take up to six weeks before you get your first payment.
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

Other benefits have long had waiting days and taken weeks to process a claim, so nothing new or specific to Universal credit.
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

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This shop deserves a lot of praise. Offering a discount to shoppers on this cruel benefit system.
Just a gimmick to attract custom, shops have been doing discount schemes for almost a long as shoppers have existed.

How is UC Cruel
Free money doesnt seem very cruel to me

I'd like some please.
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Just a gimmick to attract custom, shops have been doing discount schemes for almost a long as shoppers have existed.

How is UC Cruel
Free money doesnt seem very cruel to me

I'd like some please.
Totally agree Paul, It's free money. UC isn't cruel, it helps people survive without the trappings that a full time job brings so it make you want to get out, find a job and get those extra things in life.
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

It's cruel for someone who has worked all their life and finds themselves in the position where they cannot get a new job.
They are unlikely to apply until things get desperate and that they then have to potentially wait another 6 weeks until they can get any help.
That's where the cruelty lies.

Lifelong benefits layabouts get no sympathy, but unfortunately there's no flexibility in this new system. Even then, why should children of these people be punished for their poor life choices? Ideally some sort of system where only food and school clothes can be bought from the extra child benefits should be implemented but the administration of this would be very expensive so the government is happy to just do it as they do now.
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Re: Cruel Universal Credit

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It's cruel for someone who has worked all their life and finds themselves in the position where they cannot get a new job.
They are unlikely to apply until things get desperate and that they then have to potentially wait another 6 weeks until they can get any help.
That's where the cruelty lies.

Lifelong benefits layabouts get no sympathy, but unfortunately there's no flexibility in this new system. Even then, why should children of these people be punished for their poor life choices? Ideally some sort of system where only food and school clothes can be bought from the extra child benefits should be implemented but the administration of this would be very expensive so the government is happy to just do it as they do now.
that reminds me of milk tokens people got milk tokens and were supposed to exchange them for milk [surprise ] but unscrupulous shop keepers traded them for ciggs
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It's cruel for someone who has worked all their life and finds themselves in the position where they cannot get a new job.
They are unlikely to apply until things get desperate and that they then have to potentially wait another 6 weeks until they can get any help.
That's where the cruelty lies.

Lifelong benefits layabouts get no sympathy, but unfortunately there's no flexibility in this new system. Even then, why should children of these people be punished for their poor life choices? Ideally some sort of system where only food and school clothes can be bought from the extra child benefits should be implemented but the administration of this would be very expensive so the government is happy to just do it as they do now.
That would depend on how old they are. Anyone over 60 at present is not covered by Universal credit. If they were to come out of work they would be on the old JSA and other seperate benefits.
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It's cruel for someone who has worked all their life and finds themselves in the position where they cannot get a new job.
Again, please explain how being given free money is cruel.
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Again, please explain how being given free money is cruel.
I think it could be this.

I could payout a minimum of £500 PM, when my last 3 jobs relocated and I was made redundant, the DWP only gave me £260 and nothing more as I lived at home.

All they cared about "ARE YOU OWED ANY MONEY", screw the fact I could owe thousands.

As I see there are 3 types of people out of work.

1. Those that are eager to find a job.

2. That that want to get a job, but they are struggling to find a job that is compatible with kids and places to look after preschool kids that don't cost more than they physically earn.

3. Those with zero intention of ever getting a job and sponging off the tax payer.

Those in "3" should be made to do jobs like working in fields during harvest time etc, or lose all benefits. even if it means taking kids into care.
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Again, please explain how being given free money is cruel.
Not being given any for 6 weeks is pretty cruel, how you supposed to eat and pay the rent, go down a food bank? Of course it won't be the long term layabouts who have no intention of getting a job that are affected, it'll be ordinary folk who fall on hard times who get screwed over and may even get another job within those six weeks anyway, what a way to massage the figures
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Re: Children’s clothing shop Cheeky Kids in Great Yarmouth to offer discount to claim

I asked how being given free money was cruel, your reply seems to be about the opposite.

Any system is going to take time, to check forms, facts, entitlement atc. Six weeks isnt great, but doesnt seem excessive either.
When I have had to apply for benifits in the past, they took 2 or 3 months (and a sizeable booklet to fill in), so an improvement there.
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Re: Children’s clothing shop Cheeky Kids in Great Yarmouth to offer discount to claim

Here is a situation...I work and get 18k a year. My wife lost her job and we end up 25k in debt as a result...She can claim JSA but because we are married 6 months is all she can claim for..We have a daughter who at the time was 2 years old and in nursery we had to pull her out as could no longer afford the fees.

Now she is 3 we can get her/she is in a nursery 15 hours. 1 Full day and 1 half day but while she was claiming we could still have tax credits now she has stopped claiming I can get £4 a week towards her nursery fees if I wanted to make the 2nd day a full day instead of half a day £27 a day.

So if wife was working we could get £80 a week Nursery fees so because she isn't we aren't entitled to nothing not even the free 30hrs from September.

So it seems if one person loses their job and one works you are told tuff from the gov
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I asked how being given free money was cruel, your reply seems to be about the opposite.

Any system is going to take time, to check forms, facts, entitlement atc. Six weeks isnt great, but doesnt seem excessive either.
When I have had to apply for benifits in the past, they took 2 or 3 months (and a sizeable booklet to fill in), so an improvement there.
I don't recall signing on in the office, I remember sending this slip of through the post every two weeks when I was a part time student a scarily long time ago though, that never took three months to sort out the first time and six weeks sounds to long to me, how are you supposed to feed yourself and pay rent or is that the idea, so you don't bother claiming for the free money that you've paid for in the first place
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