UK Timeline Outcasts - Page 2

**Chris** · 09-02-2011, 09:00

I enjoyed this again last night. There were definite echoes of BSG in one or two places ... enough to make me start comparing the two, such as noticing that the camerawork on Outcasts isn't shaky like BSG.

Julius Berger is shaping up as some sort of Gaius Baltar figure.

They have gone for a technique that was very heavily used in JJ Abrams' Star Trek - lots of bright light straight into the lens. I'm not sure I like it very much but at least it shows the BBC is prepared to consider the American approach of giving big-budget drama a distinctive style and feel rather than just planting the camera and making it all about the performances.

I think I would have liked it if they had kept the ACs a bit more mysterious for a bit longer, rather than explaining exactly who they are and what they want in part 2, but on the other hand they have given themselves an awful lot to establish ... if this were a US series they would be planning for 20+ eps, whereas this is following a typical British approach and going for 6-8.

Mick Fisher · 09-02-2011, 10:10

I still think it's disappointing.

A worn out cardboard scenario starring cardboard characters.

Glad to hear others are enjoying it though.

Stuart · 09-02-2011, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Chris

I enjoyed this again last night. There were definite echoes of BSG in one or two places ... enough to make me start comparing the two, such as noticing that the camerawork on Outcasts isn't shaky like BSG.

Julius Berger is shaping up as some sort of Gaius Baltar figure.

That shaky camera thing is supposed to be atmospheric. It's meant to make you feel like you are in the scene. It's never felt that way to me though. All it did in my case was to irritate me.

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They have gone for a technique that was very heavily used in JJ Abrams' Star Trek - lots of bright light straight into the lens. I'm not sure I like it very much but at least it shows the BBC is prepared to consider the American approach of giving big-budget drama a distinctive style and feel rather than just planting the camera and making it all about the performances.

TBH, it didn't look big budget to me. I don't know if the series was big budget (although Kudos TV, who produced it, do have a reputation for producing big budget shows). I have to admit, I don't think if something is small budget, or even if it looks cheap, that it is necessarily bad. A good story costs very little. Most of the classic series Doctor Who stories looked cheap, but there were some absolutely brilliant ones. Sadly, the story for this didn't seem that interesting (or was badly told).

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I think I would have liked it if they had kept the ACs a bit more mysterious for a bit longer, rather than explaining exactly who they are and what they want in part 2, but on the other hand they have given themselves an awful lot to establish ... if this were a US series they would be planning for 20+ eps, whereas this is following a typical British approach and going for 6-8.

If this were a US series and was in a run of 20+ episodes, I would hope they would employ a better scriptwriter.

**Paul** · 09-02-2011, 13:05

I seem to have missed out on any promoting of this as its the first I've heard of it.

Seems like I'm not missing much tho ....

**Chris** · 22-02-2011, 19:59

Outcasts cast out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...c1?INTCMP=SRCH

Looks like Mrs T and I are the only ones actually enjoying it ...

Mal · 22-02-2011, 21:48

I am sticking with it, but I don't know why. The acting is rubbish and wooden. The only decent character was killed in the first episode.

There is potential for a good story, but it's frustrating that I have to put up with the annoying characters of Cas and the "emotional" Stella.

It has got me curious to see what happens though...

dilli-theclaw · 22-02-2011, 21:50

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Outcasts cast out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...c1?INTCMP=SRCH

Looks like Mrs T and I are the only ones actually enjoying it ...

No, I'm enjoying it as well

**Hugh** · 22-02-2011, 22:06

I have all so far on V+ - just need a chance to watch them.

Scary · 22-02-2011, 22:21

the thing is the americans will get hold of this and make it a hundred times better

Mick Fisher · 23-02-2011, 00:14

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the thing is the americans will get hold of this and make it a hundred times better

Rubbish x 100 = OMG!

I just hope the Yanks keep it for themselves.

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I have all so far on V+ - just need a chance to watch them.

Good luck with that.

Peter_ · 23-02-2011, 08:19

I watched the first 2 and decided t delete the second 2 episodes as I decided that watching paint dry would be more productive, I wondered where this weeks episodes had gone and cannot say that I was surprised.

The only way it could have been worse was to have James Nesbitt in it.

Mick Fisher · 23-02-2011, 17:57

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I watched the first 2 and decided t delete the second 2 episodes as I decided that watching paint dry would be more productive, I wondered where this weeks episodes had gone and cannot say that I was surprised.

The only way it could have been worse was to have James Nesbitt in it.

Peter_ · 23-02-2011, 19:07

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It is not bad much better than that poor underwater "epic" The Deep that was out last year.

I was wrong and I still want those hours back from the BBC for watching that rubbish.

Scary · 24-02-2011, 11:37

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Rubbish x 100 = OMG!

I just hope the Yanks keep it for themselves.

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Good luck with that.

are you serious anything we make they make better they have better actors and more money for effects i would love it if they did an american version coz are's sucks its boring and predictable and the acting is so poor my two year old could do better

Graham M · 24-02-2011, 11:44

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are you serious anything we make they make better they have better actors and more money for effects i would love it if they did an american version coz are's sucks its boring and predictable and the acting is so poor my two year old could do better

Wrong. Comedies they don't