Boxing MMA - Page 13

MalteseFalcon · 17-07-2016, 22:16

Normally hate drugs cheats, but he is just sore because Brock beat him and he's a whiner. Let him keep the purse, keep the decision and everyone butt out.

adzii_nufc · 17-07-2016, 22:44

If its a clear failure it would cripple the UFC to not support a no contest. Something which is actually out of their hands anyway and will be overturned by the state athletic commission. Much like boxing, promotions don't and can't control decisions. There's so many problems that can arise from this. Naturally Leanar having to forfeit some of the purse on the basis of cheating. The defence by Dana White given numerous fighter suspensions for the same thing.

People can't just butt out though. Dana White.. Who is becoming increasingly shady consistently backed both Jones and Lesnar as clean fighters. Both of whom have failed tests in the past month. For hunt this is the second occasion he's faced a potential doper. In reality the pay off would allow him to quit. He isn't going anywhere. He's a mid rank guy like Lesnar whom also got flattened by those at the top. Notably Junior Dos Santos and Werdum. Lesnars being Overeem and Velasquez.

Plenty of fights to be had at that level though. Struve, Overroid rematch? Rothwell. All comes down to the substance and a potential 2 year ban.

Away from Lesnar though. Its becoming increasingly frustrating now this crap. Jon Jones particularly blowing main events. Can't think of a reason he'd need to cheat but there you go. In all it benefits no one now. If Dana White allows this to just continue (More the likes of Jones) then UFC has peaked and is freefalling. If Lesnar is guilty then they lose a lot of hype in a lopsided division. Lesnar is a draw. Fights like Struve vs Lesnar are entertainment guaranteed.

Osem · 18-07-2016, 08:21

Michael Venom Page put on a good display at the Bellator London event over the weekend. That guy is seriously talented and seems able to beat his opponents in any number of ways - this time it was a kick to the liver which did the initial damage and a stunning knee to the forehead, timed to perfection towards the end of a tough 2 rounds. Having said that, he left his opponent Cyborg Santos with a smashed skull and facing major surgery. Given recent events, I'm wondering if MMA will have to bite the bullet and ban some of these potentially lethal strikes.

Anyway, it's early days yet but Page looks like the real deal with his highly unorthodox style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zsI2xEx8s

adzii_nufc · 19-07-2016, 23:48

Lesnar failed second drugs test in the 12 hour fight window.

Not looking great for UFC as a whole. Now Lesnar has refused to reveal the substance which naturally leads to many passing down a guilty verdict. However one suspects after it was revealed earlier that Jon Jones tested for Clomid, its entirely possible Lesnar has too and there's a bigger picture.

Take in the facts here, Jon Jones is gone well over a year, Lesnar even more. Jones was rusty in his return and looked way off the ball. Lesnar left the UFC in a poor state. He hasn't got the greatest of chins and has a semi trained stand up game when compared to his all out natural wrestling and ground game.

So two massive draws that are essentially out of UFC shape just happen to fail tests for UFC 200, Jones for clomids. Lesnar probably too.

Clomids are used at the end of a steroid cycle.

The point being is something stinks and its too easy to suggest both did it without the UFC knowing. Wild accusation but something's amiss here.

Would make an absolute embarrassment of WWE's wellness policy though.

Update: Sources leaking that Lesnar did test positive for clomids.

Pretty devastating now because UFC is looking at a loss of both fighters for at least 2 years. Was embarrasing watching Lesnar against the big boys but man he crapped all over Mir's chin and I'd love to see him dismantle stickman struve. Big nog would be epic too. Should do away with divisions to have him break Paul Brooks chin.

adzii_nufc · 27-07-2016, 03:05

Amir Khan begins MMA training ahead if apparent switch. What a waste. Its hard not to give up on this guy, the amount he's thrown away to holiday all year and take fights two weights above him for pocket money.

Thus the end of Amir Khan. Not the greatest defence, but near unbeatable in a 12 round distance. Never did get the interesting style battle of Khan vs Mayweather but who cares. Let Khan pee it away on his various adventures.

With gob***** 'king of knocking out taxi drivers' Brook jumping weights to fight Golovkin which in all likelihood will end up with Brook being stretchered out. It seems British Welterweight boxing is dead for the moment.

adzii_nufc · 29-07-2016, 02:00

Quick updates.

- Amir Khan is still Amir Khan. His career is solely around money now and his love for boxing is as good as dead. Expect more ridiculous stunts.

Kell Brook vs Golovkin is still on. Wouldn't be shocked to see Brook pull out at some point. I still see this as an absolute nosedive. I see Brook showing great speed and schooling Golovkin for half a fight before Golovkin absolutely smashes him into a million pieces. Golovkin has the wolverine of chins and hands of steel. Carl Froch but faster, more powerful and never been on the floor. Dangerous guy.

Anthony Joshua is lounging about before expectedly taking on a mandatory amateur and again learning nothing and proving nothing. He really should be lining up Chisora or similar to really get a good slug fight going and really show us where he's actually at in the ladder.

Fury vs Klitschko is still on of course with a new date. Fury has to change up his plan and keep a step ahead of Wlad and he'll probably pull it off assuming he nullifies the lean of death again.

David Haye. Expected to fight Shannon Briggs earlier but that seems to he off. Bellew piped in but he doesn't really want anything to do with Hate at all, just piggybacking the name. The WBA title is now vacant and there's talks of giving Haye a shot at it vs Browne. So could end up with 3 UK champions by the years end.

Eubank Jr is in limbo at the minute much Khan hes trying to talk himself into money rather than improving as a boxer, he really isnt that good, both he and his dad are so beyond arrogant they actually believe the rubbish they come out with. They thought for whatever reason they deserved Golovkin. With Eubanks record I can't see any claim to Golovkin.

Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz.

Expect McGregor to dominate a stand up fight for the duration. Can't see Diaz being stopped but I can see him facing a much more focused and disciplined McGregor that will leave him looking a state. At the same time I'm worried this will be rigged for a McGregor win if it went to points anyway. He's the cash cow. They don't want his hype to vanish. They want fights like Lawler and Aldo rematch to happen. Wouldn't be the first time a truly dodgy decision unfolded in favour of the bigger money fight.

Michael Bisping, talks of a rematch with Dan Henderson are running around. Would love to see it. Henderson's chin has quickly vanished and Bisping seems to be in some massive form and is by far the best pure striker in the UFC. Both could knock each other out.

Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar. Both are looking at suspensions. Lesnar wasn't getting any further than mid card fighters anyway, at 39 he hasn't got everything to offer in MMA due to a late entry but still.. He did more in less time than Paul Brooks has and is probably the best of the fighters that moved to MMA from WWE. Batista, lashley etc. Both are pretty awful. You just can't teach yourself to have a solid chin. Would've been nice to see Lesnar fight around the mid level though. Struve wouldve been funny. Lesnar would face a maximum 2 years I believe and a forfeit of some of his purse. Jones faces a lot worse given it being a second suspension now and could effectively be dropped by UFC.

adzii_nufc · 18-08-2016, 18:42

UFC 202: Mcgregor vs Diaz II

Saturday 20th August

Welterweight Nate Diaz vs. Conor McGregor
Light Heavyweight Anthony Johnson (C) vs. Glover Teixeira
Welterweight Rick Story vs. Donald Cerrone
Welterweight Hyun Gyu Lim vs. Mike Perry
Welterweight Tim Means vs. Sabah Homasi

Bold denotes Main event or title fight, (C) = Current Champion
Fights not in bold last 3x5 minute rounds, 15 minutes total.
Fights in bold last 5x5 minute rounds, 25 minutes total.

UK Start time: 3am, BT Sports 2, Prelims start as early as 1am.

adzii_nufc · 09-09-2016, 19:05

UFC 203: Miocic vs Overeem Sep 10th
Fight card as follows, Key at the bottom

Heavyweight Stipe Miocic (c) vs. Alistair Overeem
Heavyweight Fabrício Werdum vs. Travis Browne
Welterweight CM Punk vs. Mickey Gall
Bantamweight Urijah Faber vs. Jimmie Rivera
Women's Strawweight Jéssica Andrade vs. Joanne Calderwood

Bold Denotes Current Champion
Underline Denotes No.1 Contenders match
Italic Denotes UFC Debut
TV Coverage: BT Sports 2

Major boxing events:

September 10th:

Gennady Golovkin vs Kell Brook

TV Coverage: Sky Sports Box Office £14.95*

* I think.

denphone · 10-09-2016, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

UFC 203: Miocic vs Overeem Sep 10th
Fight card as follows, Key at the bottom

Heavyweight Stipe Miocic (c) vs. Alistair Overeem
Heavyweight Fabrício Werdum vs. Travis Browne
Welterweight CM Punk vs. Mickey Gall
Bantamweight Urijah Faber vs. Jimmie Rivera
Women's Strawweight Jéssica Andrade vs. Joanne Calderwood

Bold Denotes Current Champion
Underline Denotes No.1 Contenders match
Italic Denotes UFC Debut
TV Coverage: BT Sports 2

Major boxing events:

September 10th:

Gennady Golovkin vs Kell Brook

TV Coverage: Sky Sports Box Office £14.95*

* I think.

Only one winner here and that is GGG.

adzii_nufc · 10-09-2016, 13:08

I don't think Brook has taken a massive shot in his career... He will tonight though and that's my fear. GGG is P4P the best in the world, he's a middleweight phenom. I see Brook being quick around him much like Khan was with Canelo and taking early rounds, just have the feeling that just like Khan, that first power punch will stop him dead in his tracks.

Khan has the American backing and the money fights, he has the name and people expect excitement from him so he could take the Alvarez fight, lose and still make money off someone else next year. Brook hasn't actually fought anyone, not just that but he plain refuses to leave his back yard, he cannot afford to lose tonight.

Can Brook dance him for 12 rounds, that's the plan of course. He's not putting GGG on the floor. Can he avoid big punches?

Realisation has probably set in for Brook fans now, he's the massive underdog here in my opinion and I'd be surprised to see any odds in his favour.

Eddie Hearn: "Golovkin is in good form" erm isn't any undefeated fighter in good form? In fact his 32 KO's from 35 fights spells impeccable form Eddie. Hope the money was worth it.

denphone · 10-09-2016, 13:12

Indeed Brook will have to perform a bit like Sugar Ray Leonard when he thought Marvelous Marvin Hagler and beat him all those years ago.

adzii_nufc · 10-09-2016, 21:23

Just over an hour to go until the expected ring walks.

adzii_nufc · 10-09-2016, 23:30

Brook loses after 5 round battering by Golovkin

Brook is a mess, as I said, this was stupid. Out on his feet with one eye.

36 fights against nobodies, takes on Golovkin, just stupid. It's not brave and the excitement when Brook landed a punch was way over the top, Golovkin eats punches, that's why he's so popular, he's a bulldozer. This was a dangerous fight from the offset and that label was justified in the 5th round. He was dead on his feet and was a round away from being ran over and ending up even worse than he currently is.

Speculating Golovkin broke Brooks Eye socket.

GGG is a P4P Monster, Chris Eubank Jr can call him out all day, he's not winning.

adzii_nufc · 11-09-2016, 05:27

UFC 203 main event was great, 2 guys that couldn't take a punch from each other.

denphone · 11-09-2016, 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Brook loses after 5 round battering by Golovkin

Brook is a mess, as I said, this was stupid. Out on his feet with one eye.

36 fights against nobodies, takes on Golovkin, just stupid. It's not brave and the excitement when Brook landed a punch was way over the top, Golovkin eats punches, that's why he's so popular, he's a bulldozer. This was a dangerous fight from the offset and that label was justified in the 5th round. He was dead on his feet and was a round away from being ran over and ending up even worse than he currently is.

Speculating Golovkin broke Brooks Eye socket.

GGG is a P4P Monster, Chris Eubank Jr can call him out all day, he's not winning.

It was a mismatch in every way as one he is not a middleweight and two he has not got the boxing skills of a Sugar Ray Leonard or a Floyd Mayweather so who ever advised him to take this fight is pretty dumb IMO.