Online Safety Bill

[jfman]

What makes it access to online porn over say, a lack of basic manners, growing up in poverty, a broken household, etc. etc?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

What makes it access to online porn over say, a lack of basic manners, growing up in poverty, a broken household, etc. etc?

These factors may well play a part too, but it's believed by teachers, the regulator etc that having access to porn that doesn't reflect real human relationships and misogynistic influencers that is the root cause

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

These factors may well play a part too, but it's believed by teachers, the regulator etc that having access to porn that doesn't reflect real human relationships and misogynistic influencers that is the root cause

Yet the regulator is taking no steps. The Online Safety Act gives them no additional powers. Teaching unions will always complain about conditions for their members and adding their concerns to the flavour of the month scare stories gives them press coverage.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

We would never have dared say that 50 years ago.

I think you mean 'you' would not, others would have.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

Yet the regulator is taking no steps. The Online Safety Act gives them no additional powers. Teaching unions will always complain about conditions for their members and adding their concerns to the flavour of the month scare stories gives them press coverage.

Of course they have additional powers! The protection of children is what they are concentrating on as a first priority.

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Originally Posted by Paul

I think you mean 'you' would not, others would have.

I have never come across any schoolboy saying something like that. Did they at your school (or has anybody else had experience of this)?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Of course they have additional powers! The protection of children is what they are concentrating on as a first priority.

What powers to close down websites that are already illegally pirating graphic pornography?

I have never come across any schoolboy saying something like that. Did they at your school (or has anybody else had experience of this)?

I don’t think it’s such a routine occurrence that the average person would have encountered it, but almost certainly similarly sexually suggestive things will have been said at some point in schools up and down the country. Infinite monkey theorem.

[OLD BOY]

Perhaps Richard has had a very sheltered existence. I went to fairly good schools, but even there this sort of thing was going on, although often I wasn’t aware of much of it because I wasn’t included in the naughty kids groups.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Perhaps Richard has had a very sheltered existence. I went to fairly good schools, but even there this sort of thing was going on, although often I wasn’t aware of much of it because I wasn’t included in the naughty kids groups.

I'm sure it will have been said between themselves, but did you encounter any other pupils saying that they wanted to *** a particular teacher to their face?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm sure it will have been said between themselves, but did you encounter any other pupils saying that they wanted to *** a particular teacher to their face?

No, but then neither have all but a small two digit (maximum) number of the 10 million school pupils in the UK at the moment.

We also don’t know the circumstances - if the pupil had Tourette’s or some other kind of behavioural disability for example - has the teacher, school and union unwittingly discriminated against the pupil by raising a complaint rather than considering reasonable adjustments under the Equality Act?

I have heard pupils objecting to instructions with a retort implying the teacher should perform fellatio on them instead. Smart phones not required.

[RichardCoulter]

Wow, I didn't realise that some schools had degenerated to that extent. I have teacher friends who have never mentioned this so I shall make a point of asking them about this.

I wonder if this behaviour is confined to state schools in inner city areas or if it's a more widespread problem??.

You make a fair point about this behaviour being caused by a disability. Perhaps the individuals have been referred for assessment

[jfman]

I’m with OB on your sheltered existence btw. There’s a big bad world out there.

I’m not sure how it could be confined to state schools in inner cities if the internet is is to blame and largely ubiquitous. My school was a selective school in a town.

There’s an epidemic of shit parenting out there, a far bigger issue than “online harm”.

[Itshim]

For crying out loud , used to watch girls doing handstands in the yard , showing their knickers that was over 60 years ago , pulling up their skirts, looking at girlie magazines in the corner shop , nothing changes just the method of delivery.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm sure it will have been said between themselves, but did you encounter any other pupils saying that they wanted to *** a particular teacher to their face?

That says more about their upbringing, frankly. The teachers themselves complain that more and more children come to the reception classes not even trained to go to the toilet by themselves. There have been reports of children not recognising their own names unless their name is yelled at them.
The standard of parenting has gone downhill massively in recent years, but it has nothing to do with the internet.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The standard of parenting has gone downhill massively in recent years, but it has nothing to do with the internet.

It may have something to do with parents spending all their time looking at their phones instead of their children.

I dont know about under 16's having their phone access restricted, a lot of adults should have their time restricted.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Paul

It may have something to do with parents spending all their time looking at their phones instead of their children.

I dont know about under 16's having their phone access restricted, a lot of adults should have their time restricted.

So true