Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Where on earth does it mention anything about green cars in your quote???

I'm happy to highlight the following sentence in my quote for you "The Government has been clear about the need to decarbonise our electricity supply and that our transport should be powered by ever-greener electricity."
Unfortunately, I can't quote the entire article for obvious copyright reasons. If you were able to grab a few minutes to enjoy the full article, you will also see it begins "The Government’s announcement last week that the UK will ban the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2040, and redouble its efforts to promote the uptake of electric vehicles, is a positive step in the UK’s decarbonisation journey".

[pip08456]

I have read the opinion of Professor Freer following my reply and he is entitled to his opinion. It is not an article that's why it's in the "Voices" section.

Perhaps you may like to read this which lays out the future of nuclear generation (and other forms) in the UK. It is also worth noting that at present current nuclear power stations are operating significantly below design capacity.

Link

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I have read the opinion of Professor Freer following my reply and he is entitled to his opinion. It is not an article that's why it's in the "Voices" section.

The definition of an article is a piece of writing that is published in a newspaper or magazine. Professor Freer's piece ticks that box.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...nglish/article

Originally Posted by pip08456

Perhaps you may like to read this which lays out the future of nuclear generation (and other forms) in the UK. It is also worth noting that at present current nuclear power stations are operating significantly below design capacity.
Link

Thanks, will take a look.

[pip08456]

Voices our opinions – and yours.

Even the Independant states it is opinion!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Voices our opinions – and yours.

Even the Independant states it is opinion!

I'm a tad confused as to why you're making that point as no one has said it's not an opinion article.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm a tad confused as to why you're making that point as no one has said it's not an opinion article.

Quite simple, an opinion is by nature biased, it has to be by nature. I don't care what Collins Dictionary states it is not an article. According to their definition a letter to the editor, once published in the paper would become an article.

Calling an opinion an article does not make it anything else other than an opinion and we all know the reputation of "experts" opinions.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Quite simple, an opinion is by nature biased, it has to be by nature. I don't care what Collins Dictionary states it is not an article. According to their definition a letter to the editor, once published in the paper would become an article.

Calling an opinion an article does not make it anything else other than an opinion and we all know the reputation of "experts" opinions.

If you don't agree with a renowned publisher of dictionaries about the definition of a word that's not my problem.
Professor Freer states that every single expert in the civil nuclear industry and nuclear medicine industry is baffled by the decision to leave Euratom. I'm baffled you're more interested in challenging Collins on their word definitions than on the implications of the Government's decision in Euratom.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Quite simple, an opinion is by nature biased, it has to be by nature. I don't care what Collins Dictionary states it is not an article. According to their definition a letter to the editor, once published in the paper would become an article.

Calling an opinion an article does not make it anything else other than an opinion and we all know the reputation of "experts" opinions.

Why are you obsessed with the semantics on how the argument is presented? The real world issue is the negative impact of leaving Euratom ..

When you next go to your GP, make sure you ask for one that is not an "expert" in their profession

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Why are you obsessed with the semantics on how the argument is presented? The real world issue is the negative impact of leaving Euratom ..

When you next go to your GP, make sure you ask for one that is not an "expert" in their profession

Alleged negative impact. Negotiations have only just started so no-one knows what the outcome will be not even "experts".

No opinion about any aspect of brexit will become fact until such time as negotiations are completed and we withdraw.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

When you next go to your GP, make sure you ask for one that is not an "expert" in their profession

Never heard of the phrase "2nd opinion" when talking about GPs, not all "experts" are infallible............

[OLD BOY]

It's funny how the vast majority of experts appear to love bureaucracy. Professionals do love controlling people!

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Lie: "a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood"

Seems black and white to me.

Except that it was not a deliberate attempt to deceive. They simply didn't take into account the rebate, which of course could be reinstated further down the line.

Had they quoted the figure without the rebate, it would have been just as effective, so why people are obsessing about the precise amount really shows how desperate the remainers are now.

The point is, a huge amount of extra money will be at our disposal when we leave this great monolithic bureaucracy, and we can decide to spend it on the NHS, housing, poverty, whatever we like. Plus, we will be able to exploit world markets without being tied down by the EU.

I think a lot of remainers also believe that trade with the EU will be stopped or at least severely impacted when we leave. I am sure they will be pleasantly surprised, because that is not going to happen.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It's funny how the vast majority of experts appear to love bureaucracy. Professionals do love controlling people!

l see you are rather generalising again OB.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

l see you are rather generalising again OB.

I said, the vast majority, not all of them!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Never heard of the phrase "2nd opinion" when talking about GPs, not all "experts" are infallible............

So you decide who is authoritive in the chosen field of expertise based on what you want to hear and whether it matches your political views?

Doctor: I am sorry Mr Pierre, you have the following condition and here is the reasons why ..

Mr Pierre: Sorry, I don't believe you, I want a second opinion. In fact I want a 3rd, 4th and 5th opinion until you tell me what I want to hear!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I said, the vast majority, not all of them!

Den's right, you are generalising

Vast: of very great extent or quantity; immense.

Generalise: make a general or broad statement by inferring from specific cases.

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Alleged negative impact. Negotiations have only just started so no-one knows what the outcome will be not even "experts".

No opinion about any aspect of brexit will become fact until such time as negotiations are completed and we withdraw.

So informed opinion means nothing in the Brexit universe?

Here's a bunch on people with some insight on the matter:

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/this-w...or-uk-nuclear/

The UK’s stated intention to leave the European Atomic Energy Community (EURATOM) – revealed last month in explanatory notes to the government’s bill authorising Brexit – understandably raised a few eyebrows. And with 543 readers responding to our poll on the topic it’s clearly an emotive issue for many in the engineering community.

We asked readers which of these impacts they were most worried about, or whether they felt the UK had the expertise to go it alone.

70 per cent of our respondents felt that the decision would be in some way negative for the industry, with 50 per cent of those who voted singling out its impact on fusion research as the biggest area of concern.