U.S Election 2016

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Really? I think he is a blundering, bullying idiot.

he's president of the USA it goes with the job

Originally Posted by martyh

Obamas legislation was completely different to Trumps ,the only similarity is that Trump used the same list of countries.

Erm, that's what I said to you earlier and is my whole point, it is NOT Trumps list.

And What I referred to in a previous post, that you have highlighted there was that Obama banned ALL Iraqi migrants for SIX MONTHS back in 2011.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

The President is acting on his word which is what his supporters, the majority of the electorate, expect and he is reaching them directly through twitter to be assured what he says isn't massaged before dissemination.

Not the majority of the electorate at all, far from it

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Really? I think he is a blundering, bullying idiot.

He's party has blundered here, all this crap about keeping Americans safe and they go and decide to let the mentally ill have guns without checks, I mean what could go wrong with that?

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not the majority of the electorate at all, far from it



He's party has blundered here, all this crap about keeping Americans safe and they go and decide to let the mentally ill have guns without checks, I mean what could go wrong with that?

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

so they put an end to a law that discriminates against the mentally ill .

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not the majority of the electorate at all, far from it



He's party has blundered here, all this crap about keeping Americans safe and they go and decide to let the mentally ill have guns without checks, I mean what could go wrong with that?

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

Its comments like this via Twitter that I can't get my head around.

'The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!'

He is an out and out bully with absolutely no regard for anybody who gets in his way.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not the majority of the electorate at all, far from it

And you know this how?

And please don't recite the Clinton popular vote crap, we all know that is not how American democracy works.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He's party has blundered here, all this crap about keeping Americans safe and they go and decide to let the mentally ill have guns without checks, I mean what could go wrong with that?

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...-buy-guns.html

Gun rights, is that countries thing, never understood it, don't want to understand it, that said however, shock horror looks like a few democrats were in favour of allowing it too.

Originally Posted by Mick

Erm, that's what I said to you earlier and is my whole point, it is NOT Trumps list.

And What I referred to in a previous post, that you have highlighted there was that Obama banned ALL Iraqi migrants for SIX MONTHS back in 2011.

Obama did NOT ban all Iraqi migrants or refugees at all ,his legislation re examined visas already granted and slowed the process of granting new visas by performing extra checks ,it was nothing like Trumps Muslim ban .We know that Trump used obamas list but that is where the similarities end you cannot keep saying Obama did it first because he didn't .

have a read you might learn something

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

He is an out and out bully with absolutely no regard for anybody who gets in his way.

Get over yourself, goodness gracious.

Who would have thought it perfectly reasonable for a opinionated Federal Judge, probably from a Liberal land, wanting to over turn the Executive Actions of the US President, no President would just accept that, who you trying to kid ?

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Originally Posted by martyh

you cannot keep saying Obama did it first because he didn't .

I can and I have and I am sticking to my view, it is Obama's list. Regardless of what actions were took when and where.

Originally Posted by Mick

And you know this how?

trump 46.1% votes 62,979,879

clinton 48.2% votes 65,844,954

that's how we know and it means that kursks assertion that Trumps supporters equate to the majority of the electorate is crap

Originally Posted by martyh

trump 46.1% votes 62,979,879

clinton 48.2% votes 65,844,954

that's how we know and it means that kursks assertion that Trumps supporters equate to the majority of the electorate is crap

No it isn't, Trump won more States. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Mick

Get over yourself, goodness gracious.

Who would have thought it perfectly reasonable for a opinionated Federal Judge, probably from a Liberal land, wanting to over turn the Executive Actions of the US President, no President would just accept that, who you trying to kid ?

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I can and I have and I am sticking to my view, it is Obama's list. Regardless of what actions were took when and where.

Your view is factually incorrect ,an 'alternative fact' as Kellyanne Conway would say

Originally Posted by Mick

Get over yourself, goodness gracious.

Who would have thought it perfectly reasonable for a opinionated Federal Judge, probably from a Liberal land, wanting to over turn the Executive Actions of the US President, no President would just accept that, who you trying to kid ?

The judge was appointed by President Bush.

And it is perfectly reasonable for judges to overrule actions from the executive. It's part of the system. The Government is accountable to the law and the judiciary is listed right alongside the executive as one of the three branches of the US Government. The idea that Trump and his supporters view that as unacceptable is one of the reasons people believe he is dangerous.

And finally it happened to other Presidents as well. It happened to Obama as well: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...ecision-224728 He didn't go personally after the judge or even the court itself, other than saying they needed to have a full bench (there was a tie as the court is currently 8 rather than 9), but instead went after congress on immigration.

Originally Posted by martyh

Your view is factually incorrect ,an 'alternative fact' as Kellyanne Conway would say

If you say so, I disagree. Stop trying to force your views on me, it won't work.

[Pierre]

The more the political establishment try to stop Trump fulfilling his election promises the more support he will attract. If it carries on this all the way through his first term, a second term is a certainty.

I'm not a fan of Trump. He a narcissist amongst a great many other things. But I am sick, so sick, of how through the liberal left controlled media - globally - we only get one side of the argument. This is the real threat to democracy, this amongst other reasons, is also why he won, why the conservatives won, why Brexit won.

Because on social media, in the press, on the TV, in the street, we get the left side of the argument shoved down our throats every day, and if we object we get branded racist, homophobic, misogynist and any other label you want, and we're not.

So most keep their mouth shut, and voice their opinion on Election/Voting Day.

For balance here's a view point you may not have heard, or you may have

https://youtu.be/hzyLoW9LSTo.

Originally Posted by Mick

No it isn't, Trump won more States. Go figure.

Which doesn't represent the majority of the electorate ,Trump won the college vote not the popular vote .Americas voting system is bizarre to say the least and may have made sense to the founding fathers but not so much now