U.S Election 2016

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by martyh

Or you could just grow up and stop talking in terms of winning and losing like a 12 yr old

I talk in terms that can be understood even by a confused and belligerent white van man. Honk if you understand.

Originally Posted by denphone

Yes it would be nice if the small minority did not spit the dummy out just because someone has a different view to what they have as l thought this is what grown rational adults were supposed to in debating rationally without the need to throw out childish insults all the time.

It would be nice if before you reach 45000 posts you actually make a contribution that includes an opinion rather than the perpetual suck-up approval of others.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Quit moaning and go back under your bridge

Quit remoaning and we'll have a deal.

Originally Posted by Stuart

Or how about both sides stop using such potentially offensive terms as Remoaner and Loser and actually work together to improve things?

Or how about when a member creates a thread for that very purpose, it isn't closed immediately?

Islington remembers....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3vvd7mXAAAY-Xu.jpg

And as Boothby Graffoe so aptly put it

There aren't enough shootings in America they have to make one up?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

I talk in terms that can be understood even by a confused and belligerent white van man. Honk if you understand.

It would be nice if before you reach 45000 posts you actually make a contribution that includes an opinion rather than the perpetual suck-up approval of others.

Quit remoaning and we'll have a deal.

Or how about when a member creates a thread for that very purpose, it isn't closed immediately?

Come on old chum, why all the negativity? Maybe recovering from late night A50 celebrations? I understand.
Would be tremendous to hear a bit more from you listing the countries we will do trade deals with, for example, and a little less of the dashed unfair attacks on fellow forum contributors.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Come on old chum, why all the negativity? Maybe recovering from late night A50 celebrations? I understand.
Would be tremendous to hear a bit more from you listing the countries we will do trade deals with, for example, and a little less of the dashed unfair attacks on fellow forum contributors.

I don't attack old chum, I defend, and I think you'll find remoaners have a monopoly on negativity. As for Countries we might do trade deals with, get a map, scribble out Europe (unless they decide not to cut off their nez to spite their visage) et voila.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Come on old chum, why all the negativity? Maybe recovering from late night A50 celebrations? I understand.
Would be tremendous to hear a bit more from you listing the countries we will do trade deals with, for example, and a little less of the dashed unfair attacks on fellow forum contributors.

One sided as always Andrew I see : There has been references to trolls and other members views being called dumb. It needs to stop from both sides.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

One sided as always Andrew I see : There has been references to trolls and other members views being called dumb. It needs to stop from both sides.

This is a bit rich Mick, you called somebody 'Mr Ignorant' a few pages back... However we forgive you, lets move on, nicely

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

One sided as always Andrew I see : There has been references to trolls and other members views being called dumb. It needs to stop from both sides.

For the record, I've never called anyone a troll nor members' views dumb. I appreciate the hard work that people on this forum put into finding references etc and I've learnt a lot from it.
I don't see people as being on sides, but that's where we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Osem

You mean like Gordon Brown did? All she needs to remember is that she's running the country and until Labour wake up and get shot of Corbyn there is going to be no credible opposition. They're the ones letting the country down.

These days a credible opposition is what? that also heads to the middle and rubber stamps everything the leading party does.

It is ironic the only time labour have seemed credible in recent times is when they were leaning to the right under blair.

But yes brown inherited from blair also, I am talking about now not then tho.

Originally Posted by Mr K

This is a bit rich Mick, you called somebody 'Mr Ignorant' a few pages back... However we forgive you, lets move on, nicely

True but if you recall I took it back and removed that remark after much complaint.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I always thought that in a general election you voted for the local MP you considered fit and proper of representing you.

I've never known of a general election to elect a leader of a party.

What world do you live in pip?

FPTP is for the most part people voting for a party (influenced by its leader) regardless of the representative, e.g. you could put a dog up for vote in a labour safe seat area as the labour candidate and it would be voted in.

My dad a long time tory voter voted for blair in 1997 purely because he didnt like john major.

---------- Post added at 17:57 ---------- Previous post was at 17:55 ----------

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The following is a list from the US Holocaust Museum titled "Early warnings signs of fascism".

It's a bit worrying to read this list and realise how many of these aspects Trump ticks or is close to. You only have to consider today's moves by Trump to allow church leaders to endorse politicians and to appreciate that it ticks the box of "Religion and government intertwined"

The list from the US Holocaust Museum reads:
- Powerful and continuing nationalism
- Disdain for human rights
- Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
- Supremacy of the military
- Rampant sexism
- Controlled mass media
- Obsession with national security
- Religion and government intertwined
- Corporate power protected
- Labor power suppressed
- Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
- Obsession with crime and punishment
- Rampant cronyism and corruption
- Fraudulent elections
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/31/stark-...s-day-6417633/

James O'Brien does a good piece on it here.

funny enough a fair chunk of that applies to the UK also

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

One sided as always Andrew I see : There has been references to trolls and other members views being called dumb. It needs to stop from both sides.

Let's all stop this negative attitude.

If someone wants to criticise Trump and they feel they can supply an argument to do so then that's a good thing. If you can reply with a counterargument then let everyone judge the pros and cons of the two points of view.

What is unacceptable are when people shouted down and insulted because they hold the opposite opinion or they do not accept a particular side of the argument.

Calling someone a "Loser", "Remoaner", "Mr Ignorant", etc. adds no value and just winds people up. I certainly am guilty for being wound up by deliberately provocative posts and I am equally guilty for replying to these posts in the wrong way.

The petty name calling and general childish behavior in this thread can now stop.

Anyone who keeps it up will feel the "wrath of admin", with forced posting breaks.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

What world do you live in pip?

FPTP is for the most part people voting for a party (influenced by its leader) regardless of the representative, e.g. you could put a dog up for vote in a labour safe seat area as the labour candidate and it would be voted in.

My dad a long time tory voter voted for blair in 1997 purely because he didnt like john major.[COLOR="Silver"]

I live in the world where the party leader is not elected by the electorate. Even if Cameron had not been PM at the time May would still have inherited the leadership.

Didn't your father also vote Brexit as a protest vote against the Government?

Trump signs two executive orders to look at rolling back some of the post-2008 wall street regulation:
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/03/513224...ecutive-action

President Trump signed two directives on Friday, ordering a review of financial industry regulations known as Dodd-Frank and halting implementation of a rule that requires financial advisers to act in the best interests of their clients, according to a senior administration official who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I can see this causing him problems.

Donald Trump White House Dress Code Policy? Female Staffers Must ‘Dress Like Women,’ President Says

http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-...sident-2485576