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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by jfman
Such a shoddy application of the “free market” is a race to the bottom for everyone. You can repeat your flawed logic all you please. It makes it no more correct or palatable that there are unscrupulous companies operating in the market for essential services or utilities.
I don’t need my hand held as I rinse retentions year upon year.
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Yesterday, 13:12
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#377
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Do I care what you think
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by jfman
Such a shoddy application of the “free market” is a race to the bottom for everyone. You can repeat your flawed logic all you please. It makes it no more correct or palatable that there are unscrupulous companies operating in the market for essential services or utilities.
I don’t need my hand held as I rinse retentions year upon year.
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Since when is a TV delivery system essential or for that matter a utility its a company offering a service which NO one has or needs to use. I repeat if you don't like it walk away as you can with most( water is one that should be scrapped but that's another story ) services not clear do you even have anything via virgin?
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Yesterday, 15:16
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#378
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Since when is a TV delivery system essential or for that matter a utility its a company offering a service which NO one has or needs to use. I repeat if you don't like it walk away as you can with most( water is one that should be scrapped but that's another story ) services not clear do you even have anything via virgin?
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If that TV delivery system also delivers broadband and telephony services that’s absolutely an essential service.
At the moment at my home address no, however I’ve managed my parents’ account for them for decades with virgin and predecessor operators.
Whether people can walk away - it’s equally debatable to be honest whether going from gigabit broadband to a shoddy copper connection if there’s no fibre constitutes an equivalent product - is absolutely, utterly, irrelevant.
Keep repeating yourself, keep being wrong. No skin off my nose.
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Yesterday, 17:12
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#379
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Do I care what you think
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by jfman
If that TV delivery system also delivers broadband and telephony services that’s absolutely an essential service.
At the moment at my home address no, however I’ve managed my parents’ account for them for decades with virgin and predecessor operators.
Whether people can walk away - it’s equally debatable to be honest whether going from gigabit broadband to a shoddy copper connection if there’s no fibre constitutes an equivalent product - is absolutely, utterly, irrelevant.
Keep repeating yourself, keep being wrong. No skin off my nose.
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So they run a service that no one can match. Yet they are racing to the bottom
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Yesterday, 17:18
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by Itshim
So they run a service that no one can match. Yet they are racing to the bottom
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You can be both rubbish in some respects and an effective monopoly in some geographic areas. See water companies, train operators, half the energy companies who went bust.
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Yesterday, 18:49
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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You can be both rubbish in some respects and an effective monopoly in some geographic areas. See water companies, train operators, half the energy companies who went bust.
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Cheap energy companies going bust , surprise, surprise. Virgin are not a monopoly in any part of the country. They may or not offer the fastest service In an area, but that is not monopoly its a choice . Unlike water, trains you can get a bus use car etc . Having said that I have never used a train in my life , my choice , Not arguing about how good or bad they are, it's up to you if don't like it LEAVE .
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Yesterday, 19:55
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Cheap energy companies going bust , surprise, surprise. Virgin are not a monopoly in any part of the country. They may or not offer the fastest service In an area, but that is not monopoly its a choice . Unlike water, trains you can get a bus use car etc . Having said that I have never used a train in my life , my choice , Not arguing about how good or bad they are, it's up to you if don't like it LEAVE .
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There’s a reason I used the term an effective monopoly rather than “a monopoly”. If you’d rather not have good services and prefer not to use trains that’s up to you.
Everyone else can want better standards and more effective regulators.
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