Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no we are not on the same side you and others like you would still opt to stay in the EU by whatever dubious means you could come up with regardless of the referendum result .

Correct.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Exactly. Posters need to remember that we're a United Kingdom and act accordingly.[COLOR="Silver"]

what by selling out to the EU ...

Yep - the single united Europe they want and the EU is totally fixated on achieving. That inevitably involves diminishing the UK, the usual suspects really can't have it both ways but as we all know they'll try to get what they want by whatever means they can even if it means sabotaging Brexit.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No more ridiculous EU legislation of the 'straight bananas' ilk.

You do know that the bananas myth is just that? The rest of your post about kicking out criminals is factually incorrect too. I don't mind which way people voted but if they were misinformed about such things it's not a great day for democracy. https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...ess-bananas-eu

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

...it's not a great day for democracy.

Hah, the bare-faced cheek. We're still leaving and we still don't give a bugger.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Hah, the bare-faced cheek. We're still leaving and we still don't give a bugger.

Please don't cull my sentences to give them a different meaning however well intentioned your motives are. The sentence actually read "I don't mind which way people voted but if they were misinformed about such things it's not a great day for democracy. "

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Please don't cull my sentences to give them a different meaning however well intentioned your motives are. The sentence actually read "I don't mind which way people voted but if they were misinformed about such things it's not a great day for democracy. "

The full text is there for everyone to see no need to get uppity. We're still leaving, you're still coming with us and we still don't give a bugger

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Please don't cull my sentences to give them a different meaning however well intentioned your motives are. The sentence actually read "I don't mind which way people voted but if they were misinformed about such things it's not a great day for democracy. "

48% of voters fell for project fear but hey what the heck you'll know better next time, the thing is though we got the right result no need to feel bad those of use who knew what we were voting for carried it off so all's well that ends well .

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

48% of voters fell for project fear but hey what the heck you'll know better next time, the thing is though we got the right result no need to feel bad those of use who knew what we were voting for carried it off so all's well that ends well .

Yup, a government sponsored project it was too. They tried every trick in the book to keep us in the EU but you only ever hear remainers whining on about a statement on the side of a campaign group's bus. It's pathetic really.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yup, a government sponsored project it was too. They tried every trick in the book to keep us in the EU but you only ever hear remainers whining on about a statement on the side of a campaign group's bus. It's pathetic really.

it's the only fight back they have it's driven by their embarrassment of being duped and wasting their vote .

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no we are not on the same side you and others like you would still opt to stay in the EU by whatever dubious means you could come up with regardless of the referendum result .

I can see I've really offended some by suggesting we're part of the same country and our interests, if not opinions might be mutual ! This confrontational I've got to win and you've got to lose approach, is all that's wrong with this country atm. We're stuffed big time if the views on this forum are representative.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it's the only fight back they have it's driven by their embarrassment of being duped and wasting their vote .

Yep, it must be terrible lying in bed all night trying to think of ways to promote the EU in spite of the reality...

[Osem]

The only thing Brexiteers have to moan about is the tactics or certain remainers when it comes to accepting due process. They're the ones who lost, they're the ones who can't accept the result and they're the ones doing 99% of the whingeing.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Nope I posted pre vote when everyone thought remain would win it was a sad day no matter who won based on the campaigns and that they should all hold their heads in shame.



I never said you had made a mistake what I said is you can't speak for everyone because people did, we saw it on here, members saying they voted leave as a protest against the government, that we were leaving the echr and when you saw it in the media it was magnified nationally much worse, I don't see how anyone can complain when people reach conclusions based on things like rational facts just because you disagree with them, I can however see why people complain when I heard a call on the radio from a woman who purported to have worked for the EU and was voting leave as it was undemocratic, it was all going well and sounded reasonable until the presenter mentioned voting in the EU elections and the caller said she didn't know what they were and had never voted in them and that was coming from someone who claimed to have worked for the EU



Oh yes I'm bitter, when my biggest complaint about leaving is that we didn't do it ten years ago, my posts are still on here, don't remember you having much to say on it back then though. A glorious day for democracy, would it have been a glorious day if remain had won? For me a healthy, active democracy is where people participate and are informed all year round and not where a whole lot of people go into the booth factually ignorant or with heads filled with lies and switch back of the second they've ticked a little box, we carry on like this and eventually someone you don't like will win an election, someone like corbyn, would that be a great day for democracy to.

Totally disagree on everything you said here. Corbyn should not even be a bloody MP, the traitor to this country that he is. We just had an election and he lost.

As for leaving EU. Many people had made their minds on leaving years ago. You go on about the lies, yes there were lies, on BOTH sides.

If people really really wanted another shot at a vote to stay or leave, then why didn't the Liberal Democrats win ? Over 80% of the votes went for parties that respected the Brexit result, I certainly would would not say people had their heads still switched off as you put it.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Osem

The only thing Brexiteers have to moan about is the tactics or certain remainers when it comes to accepting due process. They're the ones who lost, they're the ones who can't accept the result and they're the ones doing 99% of the whingeing.

Oh Gawd, here we go again , 'you lost', blah, blah , blah.
. That's half the population, if we've any chance we have to take everyone's views on board.
With a pragmatic Philip Hammond there is hope, with that daft increasingly demented PM there isn't.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Please don't cull my sentences to give them a different meaning however well intentioned your motives are. The sentence actually read "I don't mind which way people voted but if they were misinformed about such things it's not a great day for democracy. "

He did not give your post a different meaning, those are your words, albeit snipped out. The post is still available in it's entirety. This is still allowed.

If my misquote rule is read properly, changing a post by adding words or sentences that was not originally said, this is what is not allowed.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

Totally disagree on everything you said here. Corbyn should not even be a bloody MP, the traitor to this country that he is. We just had an election and he lost.

As for leaving EU. Many people had made their minds on leaving years ago. You go on about the lies, yes there were lies, on BOTH sides.

If people really really wanted another shot at a vote to stay or leave, then why didn't the Liberal Democrats win ? Over 80% of the votes went for parties that respected the Brexit result, I certainly would would not say people had their heads still switched off as you put it.

How weird it is that some of those who came out on the wrong side of both the referendum and the election seem to think that govt. policy ought to reflect their views. A good many remainers seem to think we still shouldn't leave the EU and Corbyn's cronies reckons he has a better mandate than May FGS! You couldn't make this up.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Oh Gawd, here we go again , 'you lost', blah, blah , blah.
. That's half the population, if we've any chance we have to take everyone's views on board.
With a pragmatic Philip Hammond there is hope, with that daft increasingly demented PM there isn't.

Oh Gawd here we go again.

The majority who voted decided to leave not stay. Half the population certainly didn't vote to remain. We didn't vote to leave partially or take into account what the losers wanted and if the result had been the other way around I doubt very much that you'd be here banging on about taking the losing Brexit side's views into account when deciding how to proceed. No, it would have been full steam ahead for ever more Europe and ever closer union. Blatant hypocrisy as usual.