Unstoppable migration?

[heero_yuy]

DAVID CAMERON was dealt a hammer blow today as a staggering rise in EU arrivals pushed net migration to a whopping 323,000.

That’s the equivalent of the population of the city of the Hull.

The total number of immigrants arriving in Britain in the year to September was 617,000, the Office for National Statistics said.

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No wonder the country seems to be full of foreigners.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

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No wonder the country seems to be full of foreigners.

Yes well parts of it are. I remember having that debate with Charles Kennedy years ago. He went quiet when I pointed out that his constituency wasn't quite as affected by mass migration as those he was pontificating about.

[Osem]

More detail here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35658731

Mr Farage told BBC News net migration should be capped at about 30,000 a year, which he said would represent a return to "normality" and prevent immigration being the "hot political potato that it is".

He also questioned the accuracy of the ONS figures, saying: "If as they claim only 260,000 EU nationals arriving, then how is it possible that 650,000 National Insurance numbers have been given to foreign nationals?"

Iain Duncan Smith, who is also campaigning to leave, said Mr Cameron's "emergency brake" on EU migrants accessing in-work benefits for up to four years would do nothing to reduce net migration and could lead to a short-term spike in new arrivals trying to beat the likely April 2017 introduction date.

The work and pensions secretary told the Guardian he had warned Mr Cameron privately that a failure to control immigration could lead to the rise of the far right.

"If you do not control your borders, my observation is that you get parties led by people like Marine Le Pen and others who feed off the back of this, and ordinary decent people feel life is out of control," he said.

They're right aren't they? We're seeing this across Europe and it's going to happen here. The worst effects of excessive migration might be being masked here slightly since our economy is at least still growing but it doesn't take a genius to work out that if/when things go bad and unemployment starts to rise, big trouble will follow.

[Osem]

Germany does not know the whereabouts of 130,000 asylum seekers who were registered last year, officials say.

The migrants did not appear at reception centres to which they had been directed, the government said in a written reply to a question.
This may be because they have moved to a different country, gone underground or registered several times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35667858

[Osem]

"The EU's migrant chaos, embodied in Edvard Munch's The Scream, that's basically what you're saying," my colleague noted wryly after I had recounted at length the mess the EU is in over uncontrolled migration.

She was not hugely off the mark.

I had described countries across the continent, united in that they face the same crisis, but so very divided in their attitudes and decision making.

After months of bad press and even worse co-ordination, I had commented that it is as if every EU country now has its metaphorical hands over its metaphorical ears in this migrant crisis, hence the Scream analogy.

Take this week: Germany is still calling for an EU-wide solution, praying fervently that a very shaky accord with Turkey will lead to Ankara clamping down on the boat-filling people smugglers.

But Austria and the Western Balkan countries that most arriving refugees and other migrants pass through on their way to wealthier northern Europe think that is pie in the sky.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-35675223

Welcome to the EU madhouse.

[richard s]

The whole world is a mad house...

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

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No wonder the country seems to be full of foreigners.

I imagine that they want to get into the UK before the EU referendum just in case the UK public vote to leave and we impose restrictions.

If we vote to stay it won't seem that the country is full of foreigners. It actually will be!!

[Osem]

Europe cannot allow Greece to fall into "chaos", German Chancellor Angela Merkel says, amid sharp divisions among members over the migrant crisis.

Austria and several Balkan countries have introduced restrictions stranding migrants in Greece.

Mrs Merkel said EU nations had not battled to keep Greece in the euro just to leave it "in the lurch".

She also defended her decision to open German borders to migrants, despite a resulting slump in her popularity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35684093

I know who I reckon they Greeks feel is responsible for the mess tbey're in and they're not going ot forget it in a hurry.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35684093

I know who I reckon they Greeks feel is responsible for the mess tbey're in and they're not going ot forget it in a hurry.

It was unrealistic to expect that economies as diverse as the German & Greek economies could support the Euro.

It was far more realistic when each country had and could support its own currency.

If we do do exit the EU I wonder what the effect will be on the Euro and who will step up to fill the space created by the non-payment of the British EU contribution.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by ntluser

It was unrealistic to expect that economies as diverse as the German & Greek economies could support the Euro.

It was far more realistic when each country had and could support its own currency.

If we do do exit the EU I wonder what the effect will be on the Euro and who will step up to fill the space created by the non-payment of the British EU contribution.

The real problem was that Greece couldn't support it's own currency, no matter what that was. If the Greeks hadn't been so irresponsible before and especially after joining the Euro, they might have been in a better state than they are now.

[Ramrod]

Jude Law’s visit to the so-called jungle migrant camp in Calais ended in violence after a number of the party were ambushed and deprived of their mobile phones by the migrants they had gone to support.

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In related news:

a young no borders activist who was brutally gang raped in a migrant camp she volunteered in on the French-Italian border.

The woman found herself trapped in a shower block by a gang of African migrants and gang raped....... The woman reportedly covered up her own rape for a month so not to attract negative publicity to the open borders cause and mass migration.

In Germany, a student no-borders activist was said to be “very sad” after he was nearly murdered by a migrant gang while he waited for a friend outside of a kebab shop in Dresden. The unnamed activist was jumped and stabbed in the back in an apparently random attack by a group of North African men, but told media he was very keen his stabbing not be used for political ends against migrants.

The liberal mindset seems to be a form of mental illness

[nomadking]

And remember these are supposed to be the "nice" ones, as they are meant to be fleeing the danger from the nasty ones left behind.

[Osem]

@ Ramrod - I dare say Law and the likeminded luvvies will stick to places like Notting Hill in future, where they can pontificate about poverty in the comfort they're so used to.

Meanwhile:

Migrants use 'battering ram' on Greece-Macedonia border fence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35686104

and:

Greece has warned that the number of migrants and refugees in the country could triple in the next month because of the caps being imposed at border crossings in the Balkans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35683517

That'll go down well.

[figgyburn]

Many more months of this madness to come.Tear gas today,bullets tomorrow.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by figgyburn

Many more months of this madness to come.Tear gas today,bullets tomorrow.

... and worse I fear. This really can't be allowed to carry on but stopping the tide is going to be very difficult and dealing with those already in the EU will be a massive problem, especially when decisions have to be made about sending some of them home. At that point expect big trouble and a whole lot of disappearances, social disorder etc. The longer this goes on, the harder it will be to tackle and the more extreme the measures required to do so will be.