13-07-2019, 14:03
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Neither!
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13-07-2019, 14:21
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
In answer to the thread title.. No.
I am with Oscar Wilde on this "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable".
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13-07-2019, 14:28
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Really??? I wasn't aware we'd had a referendum on fox hunting.
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Yes, really. Did you not get the invite?
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13-07-2019, 21:38
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
When we have wiped all the animals out what will the hunters do then! hunt people for their blood lust.
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13-07-2019, 22:14
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Again,topic?
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15-07-2019, 13:54
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by richard s
When we have wiped all the animals out what will the hunters do then! hunt people for their blood lust.
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Good hunters don't kill everything. They keep to quotas and often are very attuned to the natural conditions. Why? Because they want to keep hunting.
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15-07-2019, 14:51
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
Good hunters don't kill everything. They keep to quotas and often are very attuned to the natural conditions. Why? Because they want to keep hunting.
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What is a "good" hunter in the context of fox hunting?
This whole area is a fascinating subject. The majority of the population, in principle, object to citizens being allowed to inhumanely kill wild animals. You add the fact that most of those doing this are part of the wealthy elite then it seals the deal.
Even if those doing this were from all parts of society this would still be objected by the majority of the population.
Let me pose this scenario: if you went walking in the country with your family dog and it ran off. You later discover it was ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs leds by people hunting on horseback. Would you have a problem with this?
It highlights the fragility of the moral & practical justification of said activity. If you support blood sports then you cannot argue against hunting urban cats with dogs, or the import of bullfighting from Spain or the reimposition of bear baiting. The list goes on.
This ship has sailed ..
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15-07-2019, 19:36
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
No such thing as good hunters just killers.
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15-07-2019, 19:48
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by ianch99
What is a "good" hunter in the context of fox hunting?
This whole area is a fascinating subject. The majority of the population, in principle, object to citizens being allowed to inhumanely kill wild animals. You add the fact that most of those doing this are part of the wealthy elite then it seals the deal.
Even if those doing this were from all parts of society this would still be objected by the majority of the population.
Let me pose this scenario: if you went walking in the country with your family dog and it ran off. You later discover it was ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs leds by people hunting on horseback. Would you have a problem with this?
It highlights the fragility of the moral & practical justification of said activity. If you support blood sports then you cannot argue against hunting urban cats with dogs, or the import of bullfighting from Spain or the reimposition of bear baiting. The list goes on.
This ship has sailed ..
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If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?
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15-07-2019, 19:51
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?
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Are you discussing events in the natural food chain where predators either being positioned through conventional means or through human intervention? If so no ..
I would question, however, why there are wild packs of dogs roaming the countryside ..
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15-07-2019, 19:51
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If I turn this on its head (as I did in an earlier post) and consider that the said pack of dogs were wild and behaving naturally, then ripping a fox to shreds, would you have a problem with this?
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At least in that case human involvement wouldn't have been a deciding factor.
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15-07-2019, 19:54
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Originally Posted by jfman
At least in that case human involvement wouldn't have been a deciding factor.
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It would be although indirectly. The said pack of wild dogs would not be the normal apex predator in our countryside ..
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16-07-2019, 20:38
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
No it is the the things dressed-up in funny clothes and riding lovely animals which are really the pack of animals.
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17-07-2019, 07:25
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
Why can't they hunt cats instead? Plenty of support for that.....
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17-07-2019, 07:52
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
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Why can't they hunt cats instead? Plenty of support for that.....
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