Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured

Originally Posted by Mick

Prosecute them for publishing leaked information, that they obtained through illegal means. The leaker probably broke the law, so the information they have obtained is via illegal means....

If they published content that was deemed classified, do you think the first amendment still applies ?

It's not a crime to publish leaked information unless you're the one who leaked it. The leaker is the one who broke the law but not the people who published it. That's why Chelsea Manning went to jail, Edward Snowden is stuck in Russia but the newspapers themselves publish their leaks from New York without trouble. In fact The Guardian moved their reporting of the Snowden story from London to America precisely because of the increased protection they would have in doing so.

And yes the 1st amendment does apply here because no one at the newspaper has broken a law. They never signed the American equivalent of the Official Secrets Act.

These papers clearly think they're in the clear otherwise they wouldn't have published it and other newspapers and TV channels wouldn't have picked it up. Multiple outlets have reported the NY Times story or broken their own story. That's multiple teams of lawyers who've cleared it for publication.

Trump can try to prosecute the NY Times, CBS, NBC, The Washington Post and ABC but it seems unlikely

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The source is the Independent who've really gone downhill in pursuit of clickbait but it's claimed the FBI warned MI5 about the bomber a few months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingd...man_abedi_was/

Apparently this is in addition to his mosque reporting him and friends/fellow students reporting him. Looks like he slipped though the net. I think though that MI5 must get so many of these it's understandable.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I'm sorry, but the only reply to that can be "wibble".

Oh dear, Hugh; we've been here before. You really must stop using those 33rd degree level Scottish rite masonic code words!

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Oh dear, Hugh; we've been here before. You really must stop using those 33rd degree level Scottish rite masonic code words!

You're right he really should, here's a recent picture of Hugh confirming this

[1andrew1]

BBC: MI5 is to hold an inquiry into the way it dealt with warnings from the public that the Manchester suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, was a potential threat.
The security service, which was alerted to Abedi's extremist views three times prior to last Monday's attack, will examine how it dealt with the warnings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40080646

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I'm sorry, but the only reply to that can be "wibble".

Nope. PB hit the nail on the head there.

Originally Posted by passingbat

Oh dear, Hugh; we've been here before. You really must stop using those 33rd degree level Scottish rite masonic code words!

Unlikely I would be in the Masons, considering I'm a "left-footer"....

Originally Posted by papa smurf

destroy your enemy down to the last one or they will return and destroy you .

Originally Posted by Hugh

How do you suggest we do that?

Originally Posted by papa smurf

follow orders

What orders?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Unlikely I would be in the Masons, considering I'm a "left-footer"....







What orders?

that's the ticket plausible deniability .

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

7/7 Met police chief calls for extremists to be locked up in INTERNMENT camps as he says MI5 and police cannot keep track of 3,000 terror suspects

Thousands of radical extremists must be locked up in new internment camps to protect Britain from the unprecedented terror threat it faces, a Muslim former police chief declares today.
Writing exclusively for The Mail on Sunday, Tarique Ghaffur warns there are too many extremists on the streets for police and MI5 officers to monitor.
Mr Ghaffur, an Assistant Commissioner at Scotland Yard when the 7/7 bombings took place, proposes that special centres be set up to detain as many as 3,000 extremists, where they can be kept from launching attacks.


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Had a little chuckle to myself at lunchtime when Channel 5 reported that the leader of UKIP had called for the reintroduction of the death penalty for Suicide Bombers

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Had a little chuckle to myself at lunchtime when Channel 5 reported that the leader of UKIP had called for the reintroduction of the death penalty for Suicide Bombers

hmm there seems to be a slight flaw in that plan