Unstoppable migration?

[Osem]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32787342

I see the big idea is to seek and destroy the vessels being used to convey migrants and that will require the co-operation of various Libyan militias in order to disrupt the traffickers.

Given that they'll need to ensure these vessels are empty and not legitimate fishing (or other) boats, I can't see this being a very practical option even if it gets UN approval which the Russians are unlikely to allow in any event.

[heero_yuy]

Can't see this working: When does a legitimate fishing boat become a trafficker's transport?

Only in the time after they've paid for it and then filled it with migrants and set out. Could be just a few hours.

If they're actually stealing these boats then there's no time at all.

IMHO the correct thing to do is when the migrants are picked up or even manage to get to Malta or wherever that they're taken straight back to Libya. Once it gets out that this is not a guaranteed route into the EU this problem will solve itself.

The traffickers will try other routes but at least these deaths will be avoided.

[Osem]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10255887.html

Isis militants are posing as refugees and being smuggled into Europe across the Mediterranean, it has been reported.

Islamic State fighters are taking advantage of the current migrant crisis in the Mediterranean by joining overfilled boats leaving northern Africa for Europe, according to government advisor Abdul Basit Haroun.

He told BBC 5 live Investigates that he had spoken to boat owners in areas controlled by Isis.

They told him that militants were profiting from the dangerous journey across the sea by demanding half of people smugglers’ incomes in exchange for allowing them to keep operating – and to take fighters with them.

In an interview broadcast on Sunday, Mr Haroun said that the boats were used “for their people who they want to send to Europe, as the European police don't know who is from IS and who is a normal refugee or not.”

We have no idea who many of these people are, where they come from, what their motives/sympathies are and what sort of risk they may pose to the rest of us. To think that all of them are genuinely fleeing persecution etc. as opposed to simply seeking a better life is naïve but how do we separate them or don't we even try?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I said in a previous comment that the traffickers are laughing all the way to the bank.

Whilst countries take this migrants in, off these boats. The traffickers will continue to send them out and make more money.

Yes, l do feel for the migrants, but with all the intelligent agencies out there. And no one can find out who these traffickers are

Recently, on Tv news. The camera's caught a migrant talking from a boat. He is now - l believe in Germany seeking asylum. And the minister from Germany has said all countries must play there part, Traffickers licking there lips

[denphone]

Net migration to UK reaches 318,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32816454

The Office for National Statistics said this was a "statistically significant" rise of more than 109,000 compared with the previous year.

There were increases in both EU and non-EU migration.

[Osem]

Officially that is - how many more illegals can we add to the number? Still it doesn't really matter does it? I mean who cares that 3 years at this rate equates to another 1,000,000 inhabitants (roughly the population of Birmingham) who'll sooner or later need such minor things such as jobs, housing, services, benefits, health care, etc. etc...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

Net migration to UK reaches 318,000.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32816454

Another 318000 putting pressure on housing, jobs and the NHS.

We need controls on our borders and imigration NOW. I so hope we leave the EU and tell them to sod of in short jerky movments, then tell them what to do with there open borders and movment poo

[nashville]

We should have boats here waiting to send them back

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by nashville

We should have boats here waiting to send them back

Send them back to the country they boarded the boat from

[Osem]

Most of these people are coming here legally though. That's not to say we should do nothing about illegal immigrants (or those who come on legitimate visas and then overstay for example) but the big problem in terms of numbers seems to me to be legal migration from within the EU. That's something we're going to have little direct control on unless we leave the EU.

[nashville]

Get out of the EU I say

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by nashville

Get out of the EU I say

Indeed.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Thats the one.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Chris

Whatever he's saying. it's not indeed.