Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

You are so deeply deluded and wrong about him.
[daydream] I wish that we could let him win and get into power so that he can royally mess the country up and then we magically reset things back. Just so I can say 'I told you so, you bunch of Corbyn supporting divots' and you can hang your heads in shame at your monumental misjudgement [/daydream]

And the alternative is? 5 years of Brexit mayhem? Tory party fighting against itself? Winding up of the NHS? The rich getting more obscenley rich and no safety for the poor, with the end of the welfare state? Your daydream has become a nightmare. (oh, we might get Fox hunting and grammar schools back so that's progress I guess...)

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Maybe the people concerned weren't as open and honest about their affiliations.

Like when he met Martin McGuinness?!
Either he's stupid or he's lying about not knowing. Pick one.....

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Like when he met Martin McGuinness?!
Either he's stupid or he's lying about not knowing. Pick one.....

Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness got on well, so I think we can forgive Jezza. The fact that these people chose to talk and stop fighting can only be good. Life and people aren't perfect, tomorrow is what counts

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Like when he met Martin McGuinness?!
Either he's stupid or he's lying about not knowing. Pick one.....

Correct and when it comes to his supporters, well there's none so blind as those who will not see. To acknowledge his history shows them up for what they are so they remain in typical denial mode in spite of the facts.

Quiet frankly anyone who really believes that Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott have changed their views is deluded.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Maybe the people concerned weren't as open and honest about their affiliations.

As for babbling maybe he's preparing for Govt.? He seemed to give more straight answers than the weak and wobbly Theresa in her interview ( and the more she waffles on, the closer Labour get).

Still lean heavy on poll data don't you?

Given last few polls. Including the last GE in 2015 was way off...

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Originally Posted by Mr K

The fact that these people chose to talk and stop fighting can only be good.

Are you serious?

The talking started too little too late after years of bloodshed. You ask the families of the victims if they can forgive and forget, those who were in the IRA and those who were sympathetic to their cause, (that's Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell)

Given the IRA bombed my city in 1996, there is not a cat in hells chance I would vote for those with traitorous histories.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Still lean heavy on poll data don't you?

Given last few polls. Including the last GE in 2015 was way off...

Which is why the smug Tories are now cacking themselves, the margin of comfort has gone. The polls might have over compensated for (rightly) shy Tories, an awful lot of students have registered to vote and the pensioners aren't happy ( miserable old gits that they are ). We'll see, the British public usually let me down in their stupidity if that's any comfort

Corbyn wasn't about trying to talk to the IRA to bring about a peaceful solution. That was down to Major and Blair (and others of course). Corbyn and his fellow travellers supported the IRA against the British state. They wanted a United Ireland and wanted peace on those terms and clearly supported the IRA's actions in achieving it. That is not talking.Corbyn voted against the Anglo-Irish agreement.

Major and Blair were the ones who sought a peaceful solution but did so on equal terms. There was never any question of understanding of terrorist attacks and the expectation was any attack would risk the agreement and certainly would need to be strongly condemned by all sides.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Still lean heavy on poll data don't you?

Given last few polls. Including the last GE in 2015 was way off...

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Are you serious?

The talking started too little too late after years of bloodshed. You ask the families of the victims if they can forgive and forget, those who were in the IRA and those who were sympathetic to their cause, (that's Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell)

Given the IRA bombed my city in 1996, there is not a cat in hells chance I would vote for those with traitorous histories.

So you also castigate John Major and Bill Clinton for speaking to 'terrorists'. If they hadn't we'd still have the IRA bombing. Those guilty of these crimes should be prosecuted, the 'amnesty' for IRA and Loyalist prisoners was as step too far imo, but talk of traitors and seeking more confrontation doesn't help.

Originally Posted by Mr K

the British public usually let me down in their stupidity if that's any comfort

There you go again with your pathetic attack on democracy, as usual.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

There you go again with your pathetic attack on democracy, as usual.

Our electoral system isn't democracy.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Our electoral system isn't democracy.

Is that your educated response ?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Is that your educated response ?

Mick, if you support party that can't win in your constituency, there's no point in voting. It's not a great system.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Mick, if you support party that can't win in your constituency, there's no point in voting. It's not a great system.

It's not perfect. But it is what it is.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness got on well, so I think we can forgive Jezza.

No, I don't think we can.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Mick, if you support party that can't win in your constituency, there's no point in voting. It's not a great system.

So, to extrapolate if you support a party that can't win, it's pointless voting for the Labour party.