Southern rail strike talks to be held on second day of commuter misery

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-12-2016, 17:58

http://news.sky.com/story/southern-r...k-out-10694097

Firstly, let me say that yes, l do agree with strikes. BUT, l blame Mr Grayling, and the Government for NOT getting involved with discussion with the Rail Unions.

Its no good Grayling telling the workers, to get back to work. The rail Unions are protecting there members and the commuters

I had to think that when they were on strike, Commuters said the service was that poor. They didn't know they were on strike. That's how bad the service is.

The Government must take this service back. And tell the Main company to get knotted

jamiefrost · 13-12-2016, 21:14

It's quite simple, if trains without guards are dangerous show me the stats where the current trains without guards have more accidents.

Driver only trains have been operating for 30 years, if the're not safe how do they keep going. The London underground has no guards but thousands and thousands of people use it
daily.

JF

nomadking · 13-12-2016, 21:17

If they unions "gave in", what would be the situation in say, a years time? Where there are currently guards, there would still be guards. So what is the problem? They keep saying "keep the guards on the train", well they're staying there anyway.

Osem · 13-12-2016, 21:38

One thing you can be certain of is that it's not about wages...

nomadking · 13-12-2016, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Osem

One thing you can be certain of is that it's not about wages...

Or helping the passengers.

Ken W · 13-12-2016, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://news.sky.com/story/southern-r...k-out-10694097

Firstly, let me say that yes, l do agree with strikes. BUT, l blame Mr Grayling, and the Government for NOT getting involved with discussion with the Rail Unions.

Its no good Grayling telling the workers, to get back to work. The rail Unions are protecting there members and the commuters

I had to think that when they were on strike, Commuters said the service was that poor. They didn't know they were on strike. That's how bad the service is.

The Government must take this service back. And tell the Main company to get knotted

My suggestion is to bash their heads together lock in a room until all parties om and mot let them out until they have a full agreement.

nomadking · 13-12-2016, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Ken W

My suggestion is to bash their heads together lock in a room until all parties om and mot let them out until they have a full agreement.

And what should that agreement say? They've already said that they intend to keep guards on the train until 2021.

TheDaddy · 14-12-2016, 01:26

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Originally Posted by nomadking

And what should that agreement say? They've already said that they intend to keep guards on the train until 2021.

And then get rid of them

Ken W · 14-12-2016, 04:43

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

And then get rid of them

They should tell the staff that are on strike that they should reapply for their jobs and it will be at the rail companies terms, if they choose not to reapply they will be stacked.

TheDaddy · 14-12-2016, 07:24

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Originally Posted by Ken W

They should tell the staff that are on strike that they should reapply for their jobs and it will be at the rail companies terms, if they choose not to reapply they will be stacked.

And that's why I support the workers and their right to withhold labour every time

Mr K · 14-12-2016, 07:38

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Originally Posted by Ken W

They should tell the staff that are on strike that they should reapply for their jobs and it will be at the rail companies terms, if they choose not to reapply they will be stacked.

And if there's an accident Ken, sack the managers? All about money from both sides, passenger safety is way down the list.

TheDaddy · 14-12-2016, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K

And if there's an accident Ken, sack the managers? All about money from both sides, passenger safety is way down the list.

Staff saftey isn't way up Ken's list, he wants them stacked if they don't agree to be rode roughshod over, still at least they'll look neat and tidy

**Damien** · 14-12-2016, 08:47

I was reading in Private Eye that the government is liable for the compensation for passengers per the terms of the agreement with the franchise

. As with most of these deals the profits go to the company and their shareholders and the liabilities are met by the taxpayer. It's a massive scam.

heero_yuy · 14-12-2016, 08:52

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Originally Posted by Osem

One thing you can be certain of is that it's not about wages...

It's about the unions trying to bring down a legitemate government as they have lost a creditable opposition party. Expect much more of this nonesense all the while Labour languish under Corbyn.

Trains without guards operating doors run on over 30% of the rail network. If it was unsafe why would that be allowed?

ianch99 · 14-12-2016, 23:02

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

It's about the unions trying to bring down a legitemate government

Funniest thing I have read for weeks. Thank you!