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Old 15-03-2017, 20:42   #1
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'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

I have to say, I don't think this is art, I think it's a sign of someones sick joke or prank, either way it's been reported to the Police...

http://news.sky.com/story/beware-of-...olice-10803064

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Franck Allais has apologised to those upset by his art, but insists "there was absolutely nothing religious" about his project.
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Old 15-03-2017, 20:48   #2
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

Idiot. How were Jewish people meant to take that any other way without the context? 'Ironic' anti-Semitism isn't going to work if no one knows you're being ironic, especially given the escalation of anti-Semitism over the last 10 years.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

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Idiot. How were Jewish people meant to take that any other way without the context? 'Ironic' anti-Semitism isn't going to work if no one knows you're being ironic, especially given the escalation of anti-Semitism over the last 10 years.
Absolutely agree. Quite apart from the claimed 'context' the sign is illegal in the road/traffic furniture sense and should be removed asap if it hasn't been already.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

it looks like stan laurel
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

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Old 15-03-2017, 21:07   #6
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

Very poor taste if it's meant to be a joke.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

Charlie Chaplin. No, it was a piece of art. But l think in bad taste. Sadly this is the world we live in now.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

I don't think it's that funny but then I don't think it's that offensive either. What I do think though is the amount of fuss made about it has publicised it far beyond it deserved, I bet the person who put it up is delighted.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

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Its probably what the artist wanted.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

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I have to say, I don't think this is art, I think it's a sign of someones sick joke or prank, either way it's been reported to the Police...

http://news.sky.com/story/beware-of-...olice-10803064
I don't consider it art, I actually consider it offensive, and quite possibly a hate crime.

That said, there is a group of artists who create things to get people talking, then call them art. This is where we get the sheep mounted in Formaldehyde, Tracy Emin's bed etc.

This sign, offensive though it is, illegal though it may be, certainly has people talking.
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Re: 'Beware of Jews' sign or Just Art ?

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had been put up in Stamford Hill, north London - an area with a large Orthodox Jewish population.
And how does that situation arise without them being racist?
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And how does that situation arise without them being racist?
The Jewish people you mean?

Similar groups often converge near each other. That's pretty much human nature. If you were an expat somewhere else in the world, especially somewhere which is culturally different, then you're more likely to want to live near other British people.

I think in this case it's largely historical. Generations of families who lived in the same area coupled with Jewish immigrants moving to places where they had existing friends or family in the late 1800s and up to the 1930s. It would also be easier to practice their faith if they lived near each other and near religious facilities/shops. I also imagine that the history of persecution they've faced made them more likely to group together and more alienated from the rest of society.
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The Jewish people you mean?

Similar groups often converge near each other. That's pretty much human nature. If you were an expat somewhere else in the world, especially somewhere which is culturally different, then you're more likely to want to live near other British people.

I think in this case it's largely historical. Generations of families who lived in the same area coupled with Jewish immigrants moving to places where they had existing friends or family in the late 1800s and up to the 1930s. It would also be easier to practice their faith if they lived near each other and near religious facilities/shops. I also imagine that the history of persecution they've faced made them more likely to group together and more alienated from the rest of society.
The only way they and other similar groups, could remain that "racially pure" is by being racist. Only marrying and dealing with there "own kind" and insisting that anyone from outside that marries into their group, has to convert. Imagine if C of E/Protestants did that?

Many years ago there was a TV series that had Deaf clubs from different town/cities, eg Newcastle, Liverpool etc, then along comes a Jewish Deaf club? Why?
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Storm in a tea cup

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...eported-police
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And how does that situation arise without them being racist?


i thought being Jewish was a religious leaning ,how is the sign racist in nature Jewish is not a race its a lifestyle choice .
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