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TheDaddy · 20-12-2011, 17:29

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Ah yeah, he's on a Legend's deal as well as working as a backstage agent but is unlikely to be used as an in-ring performer.

Some thing tells me he won't settle for being a trainer on tough enough or what ever that crappy shows called or the like no matter how good the cash is.

CrazeUK · 21-12-2011, 19:10

yea is was a great PPV, money well spent! best things wer cm punk and of course there NO CENA made the event special! but i was dissapointed that kane didnt go for mark henry and save his former tag team partner bigshow... daniel bryan stunk up the event... i dont like him at all...

oh... and thanks for leeting me kno that virgin still needs to stop letting sky rule them!

Chad · 21-12-2011, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

We have WWE Network here in the UK right now - it called Sky Sports 3.

Your not joking. The 29th December is a wrestling fans dream! It's one of the best days of programming I've ever seen!

7:00am - 8:00am - WWE Experience

11:00am - 1:00pm - WWE Special

1:00pm - 2:00pm - Wrestlemania XXVII Highlights

2:00pm - 3:00pm - The Top 50 wrestlers in WWE history

3:00pm - 4:00 pm - RAW's best moments 2011

4:00pm - 5:00pm - A profile of The Big Show

5:00pm - 6:00pm - The very best of WCW & Monday Nitro

6:00pm - 7:00pm - A profile of John Cena

7:00pm - 8:00pm - The True Story of Wrestlemania

8:00pm - 10:00pm - The Greatest Superstars of the 21st Century

10:00pm - 12:00pm - WWE RAW

12:00am - 1:00am - WWE NXT

That's 15 hours of WWE goodness! You better make some space on the V+ and TiVo

wwe · 22-12-2011, 02:39

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Originally Posted by Chad

Your not joking. The 29th December is a wrestling fans dream! It's one of the best days of programming I've ever seen!

7:00am - 8:00am - WWE Experience

11:00am - 1:00pm - WWE Special

1:00pm - 2:00pm - Wrestlemania XXVII Highlights

2:00pm - 3:00pm - The Top 50 wrestlers in WWE history

3:00pm - 4:00 pm - RAW's best moments 2011

4:00pm - 5:00pm - A profile of The Big Show

5:00pm - 6:00pm - The very best of WCW & Monday Nitro

6:00pm - 7:00pm - A profile of John Cena

7:00pm - 8:00pm - The True Story of Wrestlemania

8:00pm - 10:00pm - The Greatest Superstars of the 21st Century

10:00pm - 12:00pm - WWE RAW

12:00am - 1:00am - WWE NXT

That's 15 hours of WWE goodness! You better make some space on the V+ and TiVo

How much WWe stuff do they need on don't get me wrong im a huge WWe fan but 15 hours of it

TheDon · 24-12-2011, 21:35

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Was a really good ppv. Hope that wasn't Kevin Nash last match. Be good to see him fight orther people maybe even cmpunk and become WWe champion.

This has to be sarcasm?

If it isn't, did you not watch the match? It was the worst match for a long time. It was boring, slow, and obvious that both guys were too old and too far gone to be in a ring.

I'd rather have hornswoggle wrestling punk for the title and winning in a k2 style roll up then have to sit through another match involving Kevin Nash.

Russ · 24-12-2011, 21:52

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Originally Posted by TheDon

This has to be sarcasm?

If it isn't, did you not watch the match? It was the worst match for a long time. It was boring, slow, and obvious that both guys were too old and too far gone to be in a ring.

I'd rather have hornswoggle wrestling punk for the title and winning in a k2 style roll up then have to sit through another match involving Kevin Nash.

Had it been a 'normal' match then I don't think it would have been so bad. OK was never going to be a Steamboat/Flair but guys of that age shouldn't be working a spot-monkey type match such as a ladder match.

Nash regarded it as his last WWE match and as I loved Diesel so much I'm happy for it to stay that way.

TheDon · 24-12-2011, 23:48

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Had it been a 'normal' match then I don't think it would have been so bad.

I do.

Just watching Nash walk to the ring is painful, the guy is near enough crippled.
He barely managed to jackknife powerbomb HHH outside of a match.

He shouldn't be anywhere near a ring, not just because he can't put on a decent match anymore but for his own health as well.

The rumours are that they are going to do a Undertaker HHH again at wrestlemania (hence HHH doing the whole "only one man walked out of the ring" thing) and that's a match I have no interest in seeing again. It was bad enough last time where 2/3rds of the match was two old guys lying on the floor having a breather. Undertaker needs someone that can work well enough that it covers up the fact undertaker can't really go anymore. Only person on the roster I can think who fits the bill who hasn't already worked a program with Undertaker is Daniel Bryan, but that'd need a hell of a build to make him look viable.

Russ · 25-12-2011, 07:08

I don't think you're giving HHH credit here - don't get me wrong, he's no ring general but in both matches you've mentioned I think he slowed down to allow the other man to work more comfortably.

We all know Taker's knees are shot to pieces and is restricted in what he can do. Even HBK looked like he slowed his pace down at their WM match to accommodate UT's movements. I'm not saying if he was at full health that he and HHH would have put on a classic btw.

Same with the Nash match. HHH is not going to humiliate his opponent by working at a pace which makes it look stupid.

As for Bryan.....I can't ever see him at Main Event status, which is why I'm guessing his title reign will be a short one. OK Benoit made a credible champion but his muscle mass was more impressive than Bryan's so he looked a bit bigger but he also genuinely looked like a tough SOB. So yes, Vince will really have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to make him credible.

If a face-turn was in order....what would you say about Ziggler?

adzii_nufc · 25-12-2011, 07:34

Daniel Bryan bores the hell out of me. His Entrance theme is as bad as Santino's and I'm tired of him being compared to Kurt Angle.

Russ · 25-12-2011, 10:11

You can see what WWE are trying to do there, making 2 guys champions who were big on the independent circuit to try to appeal to the hardcore smarks. It helps that Punk and Bryan both have legitimate submission backgrounds but I don't buy Bryan as champ. Apparently Punk has been losing viewers on Raw which is surprising but his Tshirt sales are through the roof (I should know, I have one

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wwe · 25-12-2011, 10:38

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Daniel Bryan bores the hell out of me. His Entrance theme is as bad as Santino's and I'm tired of him being compared to Kurt Angle.

I cart stand him. Wish the WWe would get rid of him.

TheDon · 25-12-2011, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Russ

I don't think you're giving HHH credit here - don't get me wrong, he's no ring general but in both matches you've mentioned I think he slowed down to allow the other man to work more comfortably.

Yeah I'll agree with that, but he still can't work to a level where he should be main eventing a PPV, especially not in a match we've already seen, and wasn't really that exciting the first tme round.

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If a face-turn was in order....what would you say about Ziggler?

I'd absolutely hate it.
Ziggler makes an amazing heel, I'd say one of the best on the roster. He's an awesome worker too. He's exactly what the WWE needs in a heel, turning him face would be ridiculous.

He is too big for the US title, I'm glad he's dropped it to Ryder because hopefully it means they're going to move him up the card. I have a feeling we'll be seeing a Zigger vs Ryder program soon, which would be awesome as they are both excellent workers and the feud basically writes itself. The ultimate show off vs the humble warrior.

They need to start giving Ziggler more promo time, his segments on Z true long island story are always entertaining, if he can pull that sort of stuff off on TV then it'll be pretty easy to build him as a credible top heel.

I'm struggling to see where they'd find room for another face as well, they're not really short of them, what they're short of is credible well booked heels. Mark Henry is the only heel they've made look strong recently, shame he's injured else it'd be interesting to see if they kept his push going into wrestlemania.

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I cart stand him. Wish the WWe would get rid of him.

They just need to build him better. He's one of the best wrestlers on the roster. Getting rid of him would be the dumbest thing they could do.

Russ · 25-12-2011, 16:34

I was on the co-codomol this morning when I mentioned Ziggler as a heel

What I meant was how about him v Taker at Mania?

Everyone knows Taker will retire undefeated at VM but each year his opponent should have something about him which makes you think he might be the one to end it. It should be someone he hasn't crossed paths with before and is a credible winner. I see that in Ziggler.

TheDaddy · 25-12-2011, 16:52

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Only person on the roster I can think who fits the bill who hasn't already worked a program with Undertaker is Daniel Bryan, but that'd need a hell of a build to make him look viable.

Christian could do it imo if he recovers in time...

Russ · 25-12-2011, 17:01

As good a worker as he is, I don't see Christian ever being high profile enough to be seen as contender to end the streak.