30-06-2016, 09:53
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Agreed, but given the anti-EU feelings expressed in Europe are the EU making the same mistakes as the UK because leaders are out of touch with the electorate?
Maybe we need to look at how other EU countries are handling immigration and come up with a policy for best practice.
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I don't think anyone is having a good time of it with regards to migration at the moment.
The world is a lot smaller than it used to be.
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30-06-2016, 10:05
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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I don't think anyone is having a good time of it with regards to migration at the moment.
The world is a lot smaller than it used to be.
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Might that suggest we all have a common problem that we all need to discuss and address.
Countries do need breathing space to allocate resources and make provision for immigrants but at present they are arriving in many EU countries in overwhelming numbers and probably in locations where the locals feels oppressed and resentful.
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30-06-2016, 10:18
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
AFP: A European sources says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for EU membership.
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30-06-2016, 10:27
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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AFP: A European sources says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for EU membership.
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Given that we can't cope with the existing number of migrants we have in the EU how does it help to make the EU even bigger?
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30-06-2016, 10:30
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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AFP: A European sources says the EU has agreed to open a new negotiating chapter with Turkey on its bid for EU membership.
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Kept that back until after our referendum.
What other EU nonsence is in the wings I wonder?
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30-06-2016, 10:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Maybe. I think though, in the end, the politicians will rather upset those concerned over immigration rather than the middle-classes or bankers who are more likely to be hit by trading away banking. Especially the Tories, if we're being ultra-cynical a angry vote from declining industrial towns hit by immigration is far more likely to harm Labour than the Conservatives.
If there is one thing that seems to hold true across politics is that these people are constantly overlooked by the left and right.
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Not if Boris is PM. No way will he accept freedom of movement. He'd probably tell them to get stuffed first.
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YouGov poll (yes polls get it wrong) shows Britain against second referendum 2 to 1. Also I've been reading country's outside the EU including Australia, New Zeleand, India,Mexico and many others "queuing" up for trade deals witb the UK. Good news for Britian as the EU is 16% of worldwide trade, even less once Britian leaves. We're now free to do our own trade deals with other 86%.
An as for the back of the queue statement from the USA, it's expected our trade with the US to become more valuable as the "like minded" countries deal direct.
Expect lots of doom and gloom over the coming months before article 50 is started. Project fear stage 2 is in full swing. But again it will be all words.
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Indeed. Tell them to go to Hell if we don't get a deal without freedom of movement. Ghana said yesterday they wanted to trade with us. Who needs the single market anyway. If the Germans still want to sell cars to us then they better play ball.
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Might that suggest we all have a common problem that we all need to discuss and address.
Countries do need breathing space to allocate resources and make provision for immigrants but at present they are arriving in many EU countries in overwhelming numbers and probably in locations where the locals feels oppressed and resentful.
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For the life of me, I 'l never understand how the EU couldn't see this coming. Some of us did as far back as the 70s. The main reason I and others voters voted against the Common Market is because we said it wouldn't end there. It would eventually turn into a USE with a lot of poorer countries joining and that would lead to mass migration. We were laughed at then. Ha they ain't laughing now as our good friend Nigel Ferage would say.
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30-06-2016, 11:09
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I'm actually surprised at some of the names I am actually seeing popping up to be party leader.
Some of them I know by name but other than that who are you.
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30-06-2016, 11:20
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Kept that back until after our referendum.
What other EU nonsence is in the wings I wonder?
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Not really. It was known about months ago, is following a pre-determined timetable, and is a procedural thing.
Just no-one noticed as it didn't forward any agendas here. As soon as it became clear it could forward one the tabloids were all over it.
In other news the Prime Minister can't serve article 50 legally without an Act of Parliament.
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Unsure if sarcasm or not.
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Not if Boris is PM. No way will he accept freedom of movement. He'd probably tell them to get stuffed first.
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He really wouldn't if the price were too high.
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Indeed. Tell them to go to Hell if we don't get a deal without freedom of movement. Ghana said yesterday they wanted to trade with us. Who needs the single market anyway. If the Germans still want to sell cars to us then they better play ball.
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Are you really comparing a trade deal with Ghana to single market access?
We need the single market. You may have no problem cratering the economy to ensure no freedom of movement but it's not a view that's shared by politicians or businesses.
I would prefer not to be forced to emigrate because some jingoistic nut job blew a massive hole in our economy and landed my family with part of the bill to keep Johnny Foreigner out.
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30-06-2016, 11:24
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Interesting Brexit fallout:
Brexit boosts calls for Australia to leave the Commonwealth
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Australia's republican movement says membership has surged in the wake of the Brexit vote, as Australians question the benefits of remaining part of “little Britain”.
An “AusExit” campaign, including calls to remove the Union Jack from the flag and remove the British monarch as head of state, has gained momentum since Friday, when Britain voted to leave the European Union.
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30-06-2016, 11:25
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016...pensable-role/
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The Prime Minster did not specify the legal authority under which he believed he or his successors might invoke Article 50, but the typical answer will be obvious to constitutional lawyers: it is the royal prerogative, a collection of executive powers held by the Crown since medieval times, that exist unsupported by statute. The Prerogative is widely used in foreign affairs, which Parliament has largely left in the hands of the Government. The treaty-making prerogative of the Crown is one such area.
If the Prime Minister is correct, and the Prerogative is the basis for the declaration, he enjoys complete discretion about when to issue the declaration: the trigger could be pulled in October, next year, or in ten years’ time.
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30-06-2016, 11:47
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Not really. It was known about months ago, is following a pre-determined timetable, and is a procedural thing.
Just no-one noticed as it didn't forward any agendas here. As soon as it became clear it could forward one the tabloids were all over it.
In other news the Prime Minister can't serve article 50 legally without an Act of Parliament.
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Unsure if sarcasm or not.
He really wouldn't if the price were too high.
Are you really comparing a trade deal with Ghana to single market access?
We need the single market. You may have no problem cratering the economy to ensure no freedom of movement but it's not a view that's shared by politicians or businesses.
I would prefer not to be forced to emigrate because some jingoistic nut job blew a massive hole in our economy and landed my family with part of the bill to keep Johnny Foreigner out.
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Indeed not. I just mentioned it as another country queuing up to trade. I'm sure we can more than make any economic shortfall without being in the single market with the rest of the world.
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Well that's nothing new really. Don't they vote on it every few years and ditching the Queen as well? Anyhow, I doubt it will stop them trading with us.
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I don't think we really have anything to worry about in the long run. All this talk atm is just uncertainty coupled with the problems in Labour and Tory. I knew the Tories would crack and have a leadership election and should have seen it coming with Labour as I've said in here all along his heart wasn't in the campaign to stay. He's a life long Brexiter and you can't change that overnight. You know what they say. You can take the Catholic out of the Church but you can't take the Church out of the Catholic. I speak from experience here.
This was Corbyn's problem all along but I don't see the need for Labour to go as far as they did. It'll be a cold day in Hell before I vote for the main Parties again. I'll stick with UKIP for now as I have at past 2 elections and the Council ones too.
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30-06-2016, 11:51
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Oxford English Dictionary of expertise - "Expert skill or knowledge in a particular field"
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OR
Ex = "has been"
Spurt = "drip under pressure"
ergo
Exspurt = has been drip under pressure
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30-06-2016, 12:06
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Ex = "has been"
Spurt = "drip under pressure"
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Exspurt = has been drip under pressure
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So you don't use an expert doctor, dentist, car mechanic, electrician, gas fitter, etc. etc.?
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30-06-2016, 12:20
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I'd expect all of those to have expertise in their fields but the idea of the exspurt is more often smoke and mirrors.
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