gah I hate unsolved problems ..especially with my PC
wonder if it will go away when my IP address next changes
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Sorry forgot to say THANKS for all the help and advice
much appreciated , funny thing about the problem is I only found out about it ,due to the fact that my router was trying to send 30 alert mails a minute causing all e-mail from my system to be rejected by server ..... been driving me mad trying to get to the bottom of it since