[Merged] The Football Thread 2005/2006 Season

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Russ I am really starting to worry now, that this melancholy is spreading through out the League, how can anyone hope to challange Chelsea if Man Utd's season is classed as a success, if this is the case you will all have given up and be playing for second before a ball is kicked.

You worry far too easily!!!!

A success because we came second with a team which wasn't put together by a man determined to buy the title. As we can all see, had Chelsea not been taken over by the Russian, we'd have our title back.

Arsenal's spluttering season came to a flatulent end around January and saw them finish 4th, way behind the top 3.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

No I think he means Sebastian Veron £26,000 ,000 wasn't it

Ok I thought you were an Arsenal fan? Did you not know Veron never played for the @rse?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ D

You worry far too easily!!!!

A success because we came second with a team which wasn't put together by a man determined to buy the title. As we can all see, had Chelsea not been taken over by the Russian, we'd have our title back.

Arsenal's spluttering season came to a flatulent end around January and saw them finish 4th, way behind the top 3.

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Ok I thought you were an Arsenal fan? Did you not know Veron never played for the @rse?

Not an Arsenal fan, Wenger fan yes, Arsenal no. I was mearly stating that everyone is capable of the odd rickett in the transfer market which neatly brings me on to Chelsea, it looks to me like Uncle Festa has taken control of the transfer activities, that should concern the top clubs as that is the one area where Mouriniho has let himself down.

[nffc]

Russ - I seriously doubt if Man U had finished 4th and reached (lost) the CL final, and Arsenal had come 2nd and won the League Cup, you'd be saying you'd had a worse season than them.

It depends what the achievement is defined as. Yes Chelsea have bought the title but the investment is short term and the longer term investments Utd made in say the Academy have been made too by Chelsea, and Chelsea's side was built over a shorter time period than Utd's (took SAF 4 yrs to win anything, and 7 to win the league). If you define 2nd in the PL (which no-one other than Chelsea was going to win), winning the League Cup, and losing in the group stages of the CL as better than 4th in the PL, and losing in the final of the CL - then fair enough but I'd say it takes more of a team to knock out Real Madrid, and Villarreal, and go through most of the campaign without even conceding; than winning the tinpot Cup. (Which incidentally, if Forest were to get close to, then I'd be OTM but it's all relative!)

I hate ManU granted, but if the roles were reversed, and ManU and Arsenal's seasons swapped, I'd still say ManU had achieved more (ie, in the current situation, I'd say Arsenal have had the better season).

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And for the record, I was cheering for Barca tonight.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by nffc

<snip> If you define 2nd in the PL (which no-one other than Chelsea was going to win), winning the League Cup, and losing in the group stages of the CL as better than 4th in the PL, and losing in the final of the CL - then fair enough but I'd say it takes more of a team to knock out Real Madrid, and Villarreal, and go through most of the campaign without even conceding; than winning the tinpot Cup. <snip>

Exactly. Arsenal don't have a trophy, but getting to the CL final is a major achievement for any team (which beats winning the league cup imo).

Incidentally, I support Ajax. Four time winners, but cr@p in recent years

[Chrysalis]

I cheered for arsenal since they were the english team and did feel for them in the end.

Regarding the ref, I wasnt concentrating on him until near the end as gray was going on about it so much.

I noticed when arsenal goal kick got delayed for the barca yellow card, the ref stopped play for almost 30 seconds and only added 10 to the stoppage time which was very bad refereeing since barca benefited for a foul they did.

Obviously if defenders were hacking away at henry with what would normally be fouls and it stops him finding space and running in on goal it is relevant but given that for all I know the arsenal players were probably doing the same to ronaldinho who also had a poor game.

Barca were poor but I think they deserved the win, arsenal did well for a team with 10 men.

Pires looks likely to go now I think, henry may well go as the only thing arsenel have to lure him is the new stadium. They are in the CL next season but of course barca have auto qualified and have a nice stadium themselves, however given his outburst when he slagged of eto and ronaldinho that didnt sound like someone who is going to be their team mate next season.

League cup I think deserves more respect, its a cup and a major cup but obviously means less then the fa cup. However I do agree in comparison it can be argued arsenal have had the better season, they made more money, reached the CL final and had the pleasure of nipping spurs for 4th making their rivals season end on a sour note.

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Regarding the ref, I wasnt concentrating on him until near the end as gray was going on about it so much.

Gray does my nut in! If there is something in the game that annoys him he doesn't shut up about it.

I was nearly tempted to switch to ITV but then I remembered they had Pleat.

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Man Utd to sign 'new Ronaldinho'

Manchester United are close to agreeing a £6milli on deal for young Brazilian sensation Kerlon Moura Souza.

The Reds are desperate to boost their squad in a bid to challenge Chelsea for the Premiership title next season.

According to The Times, a United delegation flew to South America this week to meet officials from the club.

And they're hopeful of signing the man dubbed "the new Ronaldinho" in the next few days.

Kerlon is understood to have caught the eye of United boss Sir Alex Ferguson while playing for Brazil in the South American Under-17 Championship in Venezuela last year.

http://www.football365.com/teams/man...y_185580.shtml

[sherer]

have to say i think the best team won on the night

for the first 15 mins Arsenal were better but then when Barca got going they beat the offside trap.. the last man took down a player in a certain goal scoring opportunity and so had to be sent off.. as the ball fell to a barca player the ref should have played advantage and the goal should of stood then he should have sent lehman off afterwards

saw the sickening sight of Barca players going up to the ref asking for lehman to be carded and that should be stamped out.. if players get booked fo taking their shirt off after scoring why not stamp that out ??

Eboue was lucky not be sent off has he dived to win a free kick and that should have been his second booking. not only was he not touched but he also went down screaming in pain.. the linesman didn't flag but the ref gave it so think it is harsh to say the ref was against Arsenal

the barca players dived too but they didn't profit from it like Arsenal did..UEFA need to do something to stamp this out as for 75 mins the game was going to be won by a free kick from a dive and that is wrong

Saw the game on Sky and Andy Gray really got on my nerves he was so biased to Arsenal it was untrue.. he might as well of just said i'm in love with AW and have done with it.. in the prem he would have said Lehman should have gone but because he was being so biased he changed his mind this time

every since football was invented players have been kicked.. it's part of the game and it's only now that the over paid prima donnas want to roll out on the floor all the time when they aren't even touched.. just get on with and earn you 100K a week rather than moaning

[gazzae]

Mate just send me this..

[akane1984]

what bout this.. awwww

[gazzae]

Hauge: 'I Should've Waited'

Like a disappointed teenager after the first time, Terje Hauge says he wishes he'd waited. If he had, Barca would have had the goal, Mad Jens would have stayed on the pitch, Thierry might be happier and the 2-1 scoreline might have been very different...

http://www.football365.com/teams/ars...y_185604.shtml

That would have been better but then thats football.

I would have prefered 11 men and a goal to barca.

[sherer]

u would have thought this ref would have more sense than to come out with a comment like that it will only make things worse

shame he didn't say Eboue should have got a second yellow for diving and it wasn't a free kick

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saw on Sky News at lunch there are signs all over Highbury warming of road closures and traffic problems due to some parade that was meant to be happening

Henry looks to be staying! oh yeah!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/4996270.stm

Thierry Henry is set to end months of speculation over his future by signing a new contract at Arsenal, inspired by their Champions League final display.

Oh yeah! He is S-T-A-Y-I-N-G.

Not such a bad season after all

[sherer]

think Henry is making a mistake.. abit like Gerrard the other year.. Arsenal won't get to the final again with those players and can't see them repeating that run.. they won't win the league either, although neither will liverpool or Man u.. and the most he will get is the odd league cup or fa cup

if he went to Barca that team could win the league and europe a few more times

the same has happened to gerrard he is the only world class player at liverpool as is Henry at Arsenal and they both win games on their own and out of nothing but that isn't enough to win yuo a league.. it can give you the odd good cup run as shown this year by both teams but that is about it

[Russ]

For the sake of British football let's hope this is a mistake....