28-04-2017, 15:06
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£25 for hyped up rubbish?.
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28-04-2017, 16:32
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Re: Boxing/MMA
£19.95
Yet to see Sky break the £20 barrier yet. The £5 fluctuations between boxing and other live events is annoying though.
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29-04-2017, 19:41
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Wembley looks great again hosting the boxing, what a massive main event. This could destroy or cement British Heavyweight boxing.
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29-04-2017, 21:23
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I have a whole £2 on wlad
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29-04-2017, 22:06
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ANTHONY JOSHUA batters Klitschko in the 11th round, what a rollercoaster
Ultimate findings, despite the win, Joshua's defence is absolutely horrible, that return barrage from a wobbled Wlad just kept coming and Joshua took every single shot, how do you floor a guy then take umpteen unanswered shots? It was amateur level stuff, you can not do that, Wilder hits way harder than this. The power is real, the test was there, one of the strongest chins in the business just got shot. Movement, poor again like his defence, it's really worrying how stationary he is, a 40 year old Klitschko was far more agile and mobile, chin - meh, Wlad doesn't land big shots anymore, unless they're polish taxi drivers, I'm hoping taking these shots really up his game. Cardio - David Price level, 8 punches and gassed, let the finish come to you I guess, stop chasing it.
This guy can be better than Lewis. He's not a complete fighter but get him in the gym, work on his defence, get his cardio game up and you've got an unbeatable Heavyweight.
Wilder, Fury, Haye, Bellew, Parker.. People sniffing around the division.
Wilder, Fury and Parker being the go to, all of those make me nervous, there has to be a way to get Joshua into a lower mandatory with some bum until he's ready. Wilder isn't a good boxer, he is however a massive power puncher, way harder than Klitschko, all it takes is that fluky one shot and AJ's defence allows that. Parker is the safest option. Make that happen. Then make Fury happen, then drag Wilder here.
All in all, British boxing is truly alive again! I don't think I can watch round 5-6 again though.
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30-04-2017, 05:23
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And this is what they call heavyweight boxing as l have seen drunken clowns fight better...
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30-04-2017, 09:31
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Well done Joshua! I caught the end of round 6 onwards on the radio and the ups and downs were incredible but radio always make these events more exciting I feel. Until round 11 I was expecting him to lose on points but the end was sensational.
Yes he has a whole lot to learn but he's been severely tested and come through so what more can anyone ask? I'll be very surprised if this fight isn't the best lesson he's ever had and he'd be stupid not to learn as much from it as possible. He was taken into uncharted territory by an exceptional pro who knows every move and trick in the book so to hang on in there and summon the will to win by the only means left to him (given the points score) is a great tribute to him.
I've heard some stuff about the amount of time the referee gave Klitschko after his knock downs - wiping gloves, gesturing to Joshua etc. - but have no idea if that was anything unusual. Did he do the same thing in rounds 5 and 6? If so, what's the issue?
Finally, I think it was so refreshing not to have to endure the sort of pre-fright and weigh in staged nonsense and nastiness we've become accustomed to so well done to both camps for that. Surely no boxing fan in their right mind would want their sport to go any further down the route of professional wrestling...
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30-04-2017, 09:40
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Well done Joshua! I caught the end of round 6 onwards on the radio and the ups and downs were incredible but radio always make these events more exciting I feel. Until round 11 I was expecting him to lose on points but the end was sensational.
Yes he has a whole lot to learn but he's been severely tested and come through so what more can anyone ask? I'll be very surprised if this fight isn't the best lesson he's ever had and he'd be stupid not to learn as much from it as possible. He was taken into uncharted territory by an exceptional pro who knows every move and trick in the book so to hang on in there and summon the will to win by the only means left to him (given the points score) is a great tribute to him.
I've heard some stuff about the amount of time the referee gave Klitschko after his knock downs - wiping gloves, gesturing to Joshua etc. - but have no idea if that was anything unusual. Did he do the same thing in rounds 5 and 6? If so, what's the issue?
Finally, I think it was so refreshing not to have to endure the sort of pre-fright and weigh in staged nonsense and nastiness we've become accustomed to so well done to both camps for that. Surely no boxing fan in their right mind would want their sport to go any further down the route of professional wrestling...
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Yes that was nice to see as for many of us the nonsense beforehand in the lot of boxing fights was a unbecoming spectacle that is firmly from that in the gutter.
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30-04-2017, 11:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem
Well done Joshua! I caught the end of round 6 onwards on the radio and the ups and downs were incredible but radio always make these events more exciting I feel. Until round 11 I was expecting him to lose on points but the end was sensational.
Yes he has a whole lot to learn but he's been severely tested and come through so what more can anyone ask? I'll be very surprised if this fight isn't the best lesson he's ever had and he'd be stupid not to learn as much from it as possible. He was taken into uncharted territory by an exceptional pro who knows every move and trick in the book so to hang on in there and summon the will to win by the only means left to him (given the points score) is a great tribute to him.
I've heard some stuff about the amount of time the referee gave Klitschko after his knock downs - wiping gloves, gesturing to Joshua etc. - but have no idea if that was anything unusual. Did he do the same thing in rounds 5 and 6? If so, what's the issue?
Finally, I think it was so refreshing not to have to endure the sort of pre-fright and weigh in staged nonsense and nastiness we've become accustomed to so well done to both camps for that. Surely no boxing fan in their right mind would want their sport to go any further down the route of professional wrestling...
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Anything Klitschko did was settled when Joshua spat his guard out the round after hitting the floor. He was knackered.
His chin will learn from the fight as you'd expect. You can't teach cardio though and the way Joshua gassed was amateur level stuff, almost David Price level, blowing like a steam train and struggling to stand after throwing 8 or so big shots is a recipe for disaster and he really did survive it by the skin of his teeth. He just stood and ate shot after shot before the bell finally rang. He didn't recover in the corner and Klitschko blasted him the next round. It was like watching Amir Khan after hes been rocked making every possible mistake available on the table.
His defence and cardio really need worked on.
Deontay Wilder as awful as his skills are would fluke a shot through Joshua's defence. If Joshua can lock down a defence and a 12 round system then hes unbeatable. Right now though i think Fury has the best chance, Wilder has a fair chance and Parker/Ortiz have outside chances.
I'd love to see him knock Fury out but he really needs to fix the above because Fury will look to outbox and drag him deep. I still have doubts that Fury will ever be in any shape to compete again.
At least the power is real, there's no heavyweight in the division that will take those shots.
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30-04-2017, 19:37
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Having now watched the entire fight I don't really think the referee did much wrong. He didn't hesitate to step in when VK was being clubbed on the ropes and I've seen many occasions when that hasn't happened and fighters have suffered unnecessarily.
From what I've seen I think both fighters deserve credit. Boxing doesn't need all the gratuitous nastiness which seems to be infecting it in the pursuit of ratings or YouTube hits. Respect where it's due and both of them get mine, albeit for different reasons.
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04-05-2017, 22:25
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Klitschko looking at the rematch clause. Why? what's the point? Joshua is the younger and far stronger fighter here, his cardio and defence can only go up, not down. It's a repeat performance minus the gassing and Amir Khan-like panicky defence he had on show, meaning Klitschko doesn't floor Joshua this time but finds himself out even earlier.
Klitschko should go out fighting a guaranteed win in Germany in front of his fans, not with 3 losses on the bounce. Keep that legacy intact.
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07-05-2017, 14:36
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin - 16th September 2017
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07-05-2017, 14:42
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Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin - 16th September 2017
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Only one winner there...
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07-05-2017, 15:57
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I'm not solid on that, I'd like him to win via KO but if the Golovkin that turned up to face Jacobs is fighting that fight with Canelo then he'll lose comfortably on points. Golovkin really has to put on a performance here.
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20-05-2017, 02:00
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Seeing Baby Slice win on Bellator (Spike, tonight) reminded me of the late Kimbo Slice and to wonder if his passing at only 42 was discussed here. Any idea Adzii?
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