[Merged] The Football Thread 2005/2006 Season - Page 113

Derek · 15-12-2005, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

nice to see that he took a 50% paycut too. I know 45k is still a lot of money, but if the rumours about Real are true, he gave up about 30-40k a week to play for his boyhood idols

I'm quite sure the multi-millionaire can put up with a paycut. Interestingly he could have announced this when he left but only did when Real cooled their interest.

I don't think he would have gone to another premiership club to avoid playing against Man U.

All he needs to worry about now is if Man U and Celtic are picked in the same group for the Champions League next year.

gazzae · 15-12-2005, 15:21

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Originally Posted by sherer

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also at the weekend Andy gray was talking about the Liverpool goal v Boro.. during that goal Morientes was standing off side but the ball wasn't played to him.. it came off a Boro bloke and went to him and Andy was talking about how he was inactive etc.. surely the same thing happened with the Fletcher "goal" as it came back from the keeper he would have been on-side ?

From the Laws of the game...

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position.

Though this leads me to believe that a ball which is deflected by a defender (not deliberately played) should be offside as well. I can't remember the Liverpool goal so not sure which case it was.

Derek · 16-12-2005, 11:26

CHELSEA v Barcelona
Real Madrid v ARSENAL
Werder Bremen v Juventus
Bayern Munich v AC Milan
PSV Eindhoven v Lyon
Ajax v Inter Milan
Benfica v LIVERPOOL
RANGERS v Villarreal

(Ties to be played 21/22 February and 7/8 March)

Good possibilities for Rangers and Liverpool to progress there I reckon.

Saaf_laandon_mo · 16-12-2005, 11:29

liverpool got a decent drawer, but cracking drawer of the round as to be chelsea v barca (will it be a case of swet revenge). I read in todays paper that Beckham was relishing facing Arsenal...... so dreams do coem true, lol

smicer07 · 16-12-2005, 11:34

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Originally Posted by gazzae

From the Laws of the game...

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position.

Though this leads me to believe that a ball which is deflected by a defender (not deliberately played) should be offside as well. I can't remember the Liverpool goal so not sure which case it was.

I was there at the time and wasn't sure if Morientes was offside. But looking at the replays he was offside when the original ball was played through, hence he was still offside despite the defender's touch (which doesn't matter, despite what people think).

gazzae · 16-12-2005, 11:41

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Originally Posted by smicer07

hence he was still offside despite the defender's touch (which doesn't matter, despite what people think).

Surely it matters if the touch is deliberate?

sherer · 16-12-2005, 11:48

it's just so inconsistent though in one match it was ok in another it was off-side.. even the commentators don't know as Andy Gray said one was ok and the other was off-side

i wish they'd just stick toif you are off-side you are off-side

TheBlueRaja · 16-12-2005, 12:08

Chekski vs Barca - cracking tie that one, well looking forward to it.

gazzae · 16-12-2005, 12:11

Looking at the draw, it could have been Utd V Liverpool if we had got through instead of Benfica!

smicer07 · 16-12-2005, 12:37

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Surely it matters if the touch is deliberate?

Well if the defender had controlled in, then passed it to Morientes, of course he wouldn't be offside, but the header clearly wasn't a deliberate action.

gazzae · 16-12-2005, 13:53

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Originally Posted by smicer07

Well if the defender had controlled in, then passed it to Morientes, of course he wouldn't be offside, but the header clearly wasn't a deliberate action.

Do you have an video of the incident? If he headed the ball rather than the ball hit him on the head then its sounds a deliberate action to me.

pedantic · 16-12-2005, 17:03

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Looking at the draw, it could have been Utd V Liverpool if we had got through instead of Benfica!

Not true, you can't play a team from your own country at this stage of the competition.

sherer · 16-12-2005, 17:25

i was going to reply and say the same thing but liverpool don't have any country protection so they could have been drawn together

pedantic · 16-12-2005, 17:48

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Originally Posted by sherer

i was going to reply and say the same thing but liverpool don't have any country protection so they could have been drawn together

Which begs the question, why ?

gazzae · 16-12-2005, 22:24

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Originally Posted by pedantic

Not true, you can't play a team from your own country at this stage of the competition.

It is true. A country can only have 4 teams in the competition. When Liverpool were allowed to compete because of that law they didn't get country protection. How else do you think they ended up in the same group as Chelsea?