Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
15-03-2018, 22:10
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Raider999
According to my technician it is because V6 boxes can record 6 progs at once, therefore 2 boxes = 12 progs.
This is equivalent of 4 TiVo boxes so needs a better signal.
I don't know if there was a spare slot high up in the box or not - technician just said he had moved me up so I would get the quality of signal I needed.
I suppose it makes sense for distance to also be a factor, just seemed strange that the higher up you are the better signal you get.
Maybe this is because the top 1 takes what it needs then the 2nd etc, whilst those at the bottom get what's left?
Have to say on a Saturday particularly I am usually recording 5 or 6 HD progs on each box at any one time - so presumably needing a high quality signal?
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Wow
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15-03-2018, 22:36
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#3347
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Raider999
According to my technician it is because V6 boxes can record 6 progs at once, therefore 2 boxes = 12 progs.
This is equivalent of 4 TiVo boxes so needs a better signal.
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Not true. All boxes need the same signal level no matter how many tuners they have. However, if you have more boxes you may need a higher signal level into the house.
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Originally Posted by Raider999
just seemed strange that the higher up you are the better signal you get.
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Stronger, but not necessarily better. The signal level can be too high. You need to be on the correct tap for your cable length.
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Originally Posted by Raider999
jHave to say on a Saturday particularly I am usually recording 5 or 6 HD progs on each box at any one time - so presumably needing a high quality signal?
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You need the same signal no matter what you are watching/recording. TiVo records on all tuners all the time anyway (except in power-saving mode) - it just goes into the live TV buffers if you aren't making permanent recordings.
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16-03-2018, 12:26
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Not true. All boxes need the same signal level no matter how many tuners they have. However, if you have more boxes you may need a higher signal level into the house.
Stronger, but not necessarily better. The signal level can be too high. You need to be on the correct tap for your cable length.
You need the same signal no matter what you are watching/recording. TiVo records on all tuners all the time anyway (except in power-saving mode) - it just goes into the live TV buffers if you aren't making permanent recordings.
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Thanks for the explanation - sounds like it's all down to the number of boxes (any type) and the distance from the street box - so absolutely no reason I wasn't on the "correct tap" from day 1
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26-03-2018, 15:50
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?
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26-03-2018, 15:52
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?
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Yes
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26-03-2018, 15:56
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Yes
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Thanks
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26-03-2018, 16:27
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
The V6 will work with VM's 100mb internet, won't it?
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It will work with VIVID 50 (50mbps down), which is VM's smallest package.
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26-03-2018, 18:42
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
I was upgraded from 300 mbps to 350 mbps happy days
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26-03-2018, 19:10
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by gunner45
It will work with VIVID 50 (50mbps down), which is VM's smallest package.
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Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes
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26-03-2018, 19:35
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes
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Netflix 4K streaming tops out at 15.26Mbps
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26-03-2018, 20:03
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Netflix 4K streaming tops out at 15.26Mbps
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Netflix recommend 25Mb/s for 4K.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306
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Below are the internet download speed recommendations per stream for playing TV shows and movies through Netflix.
0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality
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26-03-2018, 20:23
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
They may very well recommend however it only uses 15.26 the point I was making is a 50mb connection is more than enough for 4K streaming.
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26-03-2018, 20:43
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
Thanks don't want to drop below 100mb for 4K streaming purposes
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Initially, VM insisted on VIVID 100 (100mbps). Then they decided to hand out free V6s to replace old boxes and, strangely, the broadband requirement dropped to VIVID 50.
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27-03-2018, 09:05
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
They may very well recommend however it only uses 15.26 the point I was making is a 50mb connection is more than enough for 4K streaming.
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It may not be if others in your house are using mobile phones, tablets, etc at the same time.
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27-03-2018, 09:42
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
It may not be if others in your house are using mobile phones, tablets, etc at the same time.
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It still leaves you with nearly 35mb I'm pretty sure that'll cover mobile phones and tablets.
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