12-01-2017, 12:34
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Must've have missed the bit where Buzzfeed and whoever provided any proof of anything.
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Originally Posted by Mick
There is no proof of anything online. Hence the term "unverified".
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Buzzfeed provided proof that a document containing allegations against Trump was in circulation.
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12-01-2017, 12:40
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Buzzfeed provided proof that a document containing allegations against Trump was in circulation.
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As I said that is NOT proof.
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12-01-2017, 12:56
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Re: US Election 2016
But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?
The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
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12-01-2017, 12:59
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Re: US Election 2016
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As I said that is NOT proof.
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It's clear proof that a document containing the allegations was in circulation. This answers nomadking's statement "Must've have missed the bit where Buzzfeed and whoever provided any proof of anything."
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12-01-2017, 13:00
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mr K
But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?
The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
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And what about the Clintons and the Democrats has been denied, never mind comprehensively disproved?
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12-01-2017, 13:06
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by nomadking
And what about the Clintons and the Democrats has been denied, never mind comprehensively disproved?
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Here's one for you. http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-grab-crotch/
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12-01-2017, 13:11
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mr K
But you are prepared to believe anything about Clinton without verifiable proof Mick ?
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The emails that were hacked from the DNC are proof enough for me. This so called dodgy document that's been given to Buzzfeed is a fake report fabricated by goodness knows anybody !
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Originally Posted by Mr K
The more your hear about this guy the more it's scary. He's not even president yet and now lacks any credibility. One way or another this isn't going to end well.
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Nothing is set to end well in your miserable World.
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12-01-2017, 13:20
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Re: US Election 2016
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The difference is....
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TD Alliance is a fake news web site
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Another massively key difference is that they didn't just make up a written claim and leave it that, they used a photo. Not that different to Harry Hill on "You've been Framed", where he says that X does something and then shows a video of where it looks like X, but clearly isn't.
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12-01-2017, 13:45
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by nomadking
The difference is....
Another massively key difference is that they didn't just make up a written claim and leave it that, they used a photo. Not that different to Harry Hill on "You've been Framed", where he says that X does something and then shows a video of where it looks like X, but clearly isn't.
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I answered your question with an example of something about the Clintons and the Democrats that has been denied and comprehensively disproved. You can compare and contrast it to other allegations but it more than answers your request.
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Originally Posted by Mick
This so called dodgy document that's been given to Buzzfeed is a fake report fabricated by goodness knows anybody !
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We know where the report has come from "It was compiled by a former British intelligence officer with experience of Russia, who works for a private intelligence firm. His work has been regarded in the past as credible by several senior US officials, one of whom said he had “absolute trust” in him.
The former intelligence officer collaborated with another private business intelligence group working out of the US."
Subscriber link: https://www.ft.com/content/4d1c292e-...b-e7eb37a6aa8e
Google the headline: The Trump-Russia dossier: what we know so far
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12-01-2017, 13:46
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Re: US Election 2016
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I answered your question with an example of something about the Clintons and the Democrats that has been denied and comprehensively disproved. You can compare and contrast it to other allegations but it more than answers your request.
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They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.
Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
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12-01-2017, 16:13
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by nomadking
They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.
Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
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The point is though that Trump has to accept what his security agencies tell him ,he has no real choice .He is starting his presidency at odds with his security chief which is fantastic news for ISIS and every other tin pot nation with a grudge against America but rubbish for everyone else.If Clapper says his agencies did not leak the documents then Trump has to accept that or provide proof to the contrary and whilst we are talking about proof Trump has to show some proof that the 'fake news' is indeed fake ,we can't accept his denial any more than he is accepting Clappers
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12-01-2017, 17:04
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Re: US Election 2016
This is the first US election that I keep hearing "President Elect" bandied about. I'm sure I have never heard it before.
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12-01-2017, 17:15
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by nomadking
They denied something that wasn't really claimed in the first place. Big deal.
Still absolutely no evidence whatsoever included in the dossier, just wild unsubstantiated claims.
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What's in or not in the dossier is far less important than Trump alienating and demoralising the security services. Such a situation is music to the ears of America's enemies.
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12-01-2017, 17:45
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Re: US Election 2016
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What's in or not in the dossier is far less important than Trump alienating and demoralising the security services. Such a situation is music to the ears of America's enemies.
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I haven't yet seen reports of Trump railing against the Security Services. The Intelligence Agencies on the other hand have a good track record. WMD's that didn't exist, Lybia, Syria etc. Those boys are at the top of their game!
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12-01-2017, 18:12
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Re: US Election 2016
Calling something a dossier these days it will be subject to ridicule.
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