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Old 08-01-2017, 10:47   #29
martyh
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Re: Crisis in the NHS

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
What about the impact of an ageing population? The obesity crisis? According to this: http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-21/f...besity-crisis/ deal with the problems and complications of diabetes costs 10% of the NHS budget alone.

Health tourism should obviously be addressed but even at £1.8 billion it's not top of the list of problems facing the NHS. According to this dealing with the effects of binge drinking costs £3.5 billion a year not including dealing with any long term effects of it either.

Again it's something we could do to help the budget but it's not the cause of the problems. Not everything is the fault of immigrants/foreigners.

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As for needing immigrants in the NHS well we probably do to an extent: https://fullfact.org/immigration/imm...-and-nhs-staff. They make up 5% of the overall staff but they're over represented in the higher roles making up 10% of doctors. That's only EU migrants. We probably do need those 10% of Doctors....


Here's a decent article from the Independent ,they ask 4 senior managers in the NHS the causes of the current crisis .As it happens not one of them say that health tourism is the cause .One of the biggest issues is that the extra money given by the government isn't reaching the front line like GP's .Unless we invest heavily in GP services to treat minor ailments then the next port of call will be the nearest A&E center .Maybe instead of focusing on a 7 day NHS as a whole going for a 7 day GP service to start with may be the way to go

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
I never mentioned A&E, I said going to hospital to receive treatment, you know the planned stuff. It still leaves a black hole either way.

To receive the type of treatment you are talking about you will go via a GP referral or from the A&E .So you should be talking about the E&A

Last edited by martyh; 08-01-2017 at 10:52.
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