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Old 10-10-2023, 12:16   #110
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Re: Hamas terrorists invade Israel, kill civilians and take hostages

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
In all conflicts people value their own lives over those of their enemy - that's equally true of nation states as it is for non-state actors. As missiles rain down on Gaza killing scores of civilians it's preposterous to suggest this is an area where Israel hold the moral high ground.
No doubt you also thought that Churchill and Truman should have been charged with war crimes.

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Fundamentally Pierre you are stuck unable to view the conflict through any other prism than where Israel are on the right side and the Palestinians the wrong side.
In History..no, in regards to this incident....yes.

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Your view is that only state actors have a legitimate pursuit of armed conflict
If attacked they have the right to defend themselves and then eliminate the threat.

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and indeed that they can ignore their obligations under international law when doing so. No amount of circuitous arguing (or Israeli war crimes) will convince you otherwise.
If Israel commit war crimes over this incident I look forward to seeing them charged and appearing in the Hague.

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"They started it" might be a defence in a school playground but it absolutely does not remove Israel of it's obligations as an occupying force in Gaza.
Israel has not occupied Gaza since 2005, if they go in again we'll see what happens.
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